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In this Feb. 22, 1986 motion, prosecutors try to block attorneys for Timothy McVeigh from using civil discovery procedures, stemming from a suit brought against McVeigh in an Oklahoma court, as part of his criminal defense.


UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLORADO
Chief Judge Richard P. Matsch

Criminal Action No. 96-CR-68-M (formerly No. 95-110 MH WDOK)

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
Plaintiff

v.

TIMOTHY JAMES McVEIGH and TERRY LYNN NICHOLS
Defendants.

MOTION OF THE UNITED STATES FOR A PROTECTIVE 
ORDER STAYING DEFENDANTS FROM PURSUING CIVIL 
DISCOVERY  
 
The United States moves this Court for an order staying defendants 
from pursuing discovery in civil cases arising from the April 19, 
1995, bombing that is the subject of this indictment. Defendant 
McVeigh, represented by counsel appointed under the Criminal 
Justice Act, has improperly sought to expand the criminal 
discovery rights allowed him under federal law by invoking the 
civil process of an Oklahoma state court.  As set forth more fully in 
the accompanying brief, federal case law supports the imposition 
of a protective order preserving the integrity of this prosecution.  
 
Respectfully Submitted, 
 
HENRY L. SOLANO 
United States Attorney 
 
JOSEPH H. HARTZLER 
Special Attorney to the U.S. Attorney General  
 
SEAN CONNELLY 
Special Attorney the U.S. Attorney General 210 W. Park Avenue, 
Suite 400 Oklahoma City, Oklahoma  73102 (405) 231-5281  
 
 
CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE 
 
I hereby certify that on this 22nd day of February 1996, a true and 
correct copy of this Motion was served by mail upon:  
 
(1)  Stephen Jones, Esq. 
Robert Nigh, Esq. 
Richard Burr, Esq. 
114 East Broadway, Suite 1100 
P.O. Box 472 
Enid, OK  73702-0472 
Counsel for Timothy James McVeigh; and 
 
(2)  Michael E. Tigar, Esq. 
Ronald G. Woods, Esq. 
D. Kate Rubin, Esq. 
1620 Mid-America Tower 
20 North Broadway 
Oklahoma City, OK 73102 
Counsel for Terry Lynn Nichols 
 
SEAN CONNELLY 
 
 
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF 
COLORADO Chief Judge Richard P. Matsch  
 
Criminal Action No. 96-CR-68-M (formerly No. 95-110 MH 
WDOK)  
 
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, 
 
Plaintiff 
 
v. 
TIMOTHY JAMES McVEIGH and TERRY LYNN NICHOLS  
 
Defendants. 
 
BRIEF OF THE UNITED STATES IN SUPPORT OF MOTION 
FOR A PROTECTIVE ORDER STAYING DEFENDANTS 
FROM PURSUING CIVIL DISCOVERY  
 
BACKGROUND 
 
In the wake of the federal indictment of defendants McVeigh and 
Nichols, various civil lawsuits have been filed seeking damages for 
the April 19, 1995, bombing.   McVeigh has conceded to this 
Court that he views these civil suits as an "opportunity to take 
depositions of witnesses and to issue subpoenas for the production 
of items which he could not get from the government."  Docket 
Entry ("DE") 784 at 23.   Indeed, McVeigh deems civil suits 
"extremely important for the defense" precisely because "there [is] 
no basis in the criminal case to subpoena" witnesses before trial.  
Id.  
 
Most  recently, a lawsuit was filed in Canadian County 
(Oklahoma) state court by Edye Smith, whose sons Chase and 
Colton died in the blast, against "McVeigh and other unknown 
individuals." See Amended Petition filed 2/9/96 in Smith v. 
McVeigh, No. CJ 96-18 (Can. Cty. Dist. Ct.) (Exhibit A:1-3).  
Attorney Stephen Jones, who was appointed to represent McVeigh 
in this federal criminal case under the Criminal Justice Act, entered 
his appearance on behalf of McVeigh in the state civil case on 
February 7, 1996. See Exhibit A:4.  McVeigh has not yet filed any 
answer in the civil case, but already Mr. Jones has sought civil 
discovery therein.   See McVeigh's Application for Formal Letter 
of Request to take Depositions in Foreign Courts, filed 2/12/96 
(Exhibit A:6-10).  Mr. Jones' affidavit in support of this civil 
discovery request discusses the allegations in the "parallel" 
criminal case and criticizes the federal government's investigation.  
Exhibit A:15- 23. McVeigh requests that an Oklahoma judge allow 
him to pursue discovery in the civil case, including "depositions in 
Great Britain" (pursuant to letters rogatory) of three alleged 
"British fascists" to examine "their activities in the United States to 
advance their political agenda and whether these discussions 
involved the possibility directly or indirectly of overt activity 
against the federal government, its employees and its property." 
Exhibit A:7. Mr. Jones' supporting affidavit cautions that he "does 
not at this point allege that these individuals are involved in the 
bombing, but instead believes that they may have knowledge of 
motives and participants."  Exhibit A:22.  
 
Mr. Jones' public comments confirm that he wishes to exploit civil 
discovery for the purpose of defending McVeigh in this federal 
criminal case as well as in the press.  For example, an Associated 
Press story on February 9, 1996 (three days before McVeigh's 
deposition requests were filed in state court), reported that "Jones 
said the depositions may be used in the federal [criminal] case." 
"McVeigh Attorneys Seek Subpoenas," AP, Feb. 9, 1996 (Exhibit 
B:1); see also Exhibit B:3 (Mr. Jones' statement on Feb. 5, 1996, 
edition of NBC's Today Show, that:  "I think there may be a link 
not involving my client but that there may be a link between some 
very radical right-wing groups in this country and the neo-Nazis in 
Britain and Germany that may have been part of a conspiracy to 
bomb the federal building"); Exhibit B:5-8 (Mr. Jones' interview 
that same day on CBS This Morning); "McVeigh Lawyer Looks 
into European Conspiracy Theory," Daily Oklahoman, Feb. 5, 
1995, at 07 (Exhibit B:9-11).  
 
ARGUMENT 
 
It is well established that "in appropriate circumstances, the district 
court has authority under [Federal] Rule [of Criminal Procedure] 
16(d) to prevent the parties from abusing discovery procedures, 
including attempts to avoid the limitations on criminal discovery 
through the use of civil discovery provisions."  United States v. 
Stewart, 872 F.2d 957, 962-963 (10th Cir. 1989) (citing SEC v. 
Dresser Industries, 628 F.2d 1368, 1373 (D.C. Cir. 1980); 
Campbell v. Eastland, 307 F.2d 478 (5th Cir. 1962), cert. denied, 
371 U.S. 955 (1963)).   In many cases "[f]ederal courts have 
deferred civil proceedings pending the completion of parallel 
criminal prosecutions when the interests of justice seemed to 
require such action, sometimes at the request of the prosecution...." 
United States v. Kordel, 397 U.S. 1, 12  (1970); e.a., RaPhael v. 
Aetna Casualty and Surety Co., 744 F. Supp. 71 (S.D.N.Y. 1990); 
LaRouche Campaign v. FBI, 106 F.R.D. 500 (D. Mass. 1985).  
 
Judge Wisdom's seminal opinion in Campbell v. Eastland outlined 
the reasons courts should ensure that defendants do not circumvent 
the restrictions on federal criminal discovery by seeking more 
liberal civil discovery in a related case.  One important reason is 
not to add to "the defendant's existing advantages" in a criminal 
case.  307 F.2d at 487 n.12 (internal quotations omitted).  Not only 
must the federal prosecution prove a defendant's guilt beyond a 
reasonable doubt to a unanimous jury of twelve citizens, it must do 
so after having provided the defense with statutorily and 
constitutionally mandated discovery. In contrast, "the self-
incrimination privilege would effectively block any attempts to 
discover" information directly from the defendant. Id.  The present 
case -- in which the United States has provided McVeigh with 
discovery of more than 10,000 witness statements and a massive 
quantity of physical evidence while receiving virtually nothing in 
return -- is a prime example of a federal criminal defendant's built-
in "advantages."  McVeigh should not be allowed the additional 
advantage of using civil discovery to prepare to defend against 
federal criminal charges.  
 
A case closely on point is United States v. Phillips, 580 F. Supp. 
517 (N.D. Ill. 1984).  The court there ordered the defendant to 
"cease taking or receiving further discovery in the state court case," 
which had been filed against him five months before his federal 
indictment, "until his criminal trial in this Court has been 
completed."  Id. at 520.  The court based this order on the facts 
that:  
 
 
A review of the discovery materials already obtained and requested 
by Phillips in the civil action indicates that Phillips has 
unquestionably utilized the state civil discovery rules for the prime 
purpose of obtaining materials to which he is not entitled under 
federal criminal discovery rules.   Although some of the 
information sought by Phillips relates to the state court slander 
suit, much more of the discovery is aimed at Phillips' upcoming 
criminal trial.  This abusive tactic is an improper circumvention of 
the criminal discovery rules. Protection of the integrity of the 
criminal justice process fully justifies this Court's taking remedial 
action.  
 
 
Id. at 519-520. 
 
Stay orders have been issued regardless of whether the civil lawsuit 
was brought and discovery was sought for reasons entirely 
independent of the criminal case.  E.q., Campbell v. Eastland, 307 
F.2d at 488 ("whether or not the suit, as distinguished from the 
motion was bona fide, the effect of granting the motion was to give 
pre-trial discovery of documents denied the taxpayer in the 
criminal case"); In re Eisenberg, 654 F.2d 1107, 1113-1114 (11th 
Cir. 1981) ("Even if Eisenberg possessed the purest of motives, he 
would have been the beneficiary of materials otherwise unavailable 
to him under the criminal rules if the motion were granted, thus 
nullifying in effect the criminal discovery limitations"); Twenty 
First Century Corp. v. LaBianca, 801 F. Supp. 1007, 1010 
(E.D.N.Y. 1992) (stay ordered even though "[n]o party to this 
action contends that the civil case was brought solely to obtain 
broader discovery in the criminal case").  Indeed, defendants have 
been stayed from pursuing civil discovery even where it was the 
federal government that simultaneously was pursuing both the 
criminal and civil cases. F.q., In re Ivan F. Boesky Securities 
Litigation, 128 F.R.D. 47, 48 (S.D.N.Y. 1989) (staying civil 
discovery where "Michael Milken and Lowell Milken are 
defendants in parallel civil and criminal cases brought respectively 
by the Securities and Exchange Commission ('SEC') and the 
United States Attorney"). It is enough in such cases that "the 
similarity of the issues left open the possibility that [defendant] 
might improperly exploit civil discovery for the advancement of 
his criminal case."  United States v. Mellon Bank, N.A., 545 F.2d 
869, 873 (3d Cir. 1976).  
 
This clearly is an appropriate case for ordering McVeigh 
temporarily not to pursue or receive any civil discovery.  McVeigh 
has conceded to this Court that he views these civil suits as an 
"opportunity" to obtain discovery, particularly pretrial witness 
depositions, that he could not legitimately obtain in this criminal 
case.  DE 784 at 23.  Moreover, Mr. Jones' affidavit in support of 
his civil discovery request spends far more time discussing the 
allegations in the "parallel" criminal case and criticizing the 
+federal government's investigation than he does responding to any 
separate allegations in the civil case.  See Exhibit A:15-23. Indeed, 
McVeigh sought international discovery in the state case before 
even bothering to respond to the complaint.  The inference is 
unavoidable that McVeigh's discovery-driven response to the state 
civil suit is an effort principally to defend against federal criminal 
charges rather than to litigate whether McVeigh (a sworn indigent) 
is civilly responsible for millions of dollars.  
 
To the extent McVeigh might argue that he has sought civil 
discovery in whole or in part to defend the state case, and not just 
to aid his criminal defense, he clearly is not entitled to the services 
of attorneys appointed under the federal Criminal Justice Act 
("CJA"), 18 U.S.C. Section 3006A.  Whether or not McVeigh's 
attorneys are actually billing the United States for time spent 
defending the civil case, CJA funds are subsidizing their overall 
representation of McVeigh.  Those lawyers are not entitled to use 
federal funds to subsidize their representation, including overseas 
discovery, of a civil defendant in a state case.  
 
This Court accordingly should issue a protective order staying 
defendants from pursuing or receiving discovery in any civil case 
pending the outcome of this criminal proceeding.  The United 
States has no indication that defendant Nichols has ever sought to 
exploit civil discovery, but the proposed order would include him 
as well. In addition, the proposed order would require defendants 
to notify the Court and the United States of any civil litigation in 
which they are named parties, so that the need for any further relief 
may be determined.  
 
CONCLUSION 
 
For the above reasons, the Court should enter an order staying 
defendants from pursuing discovery in civil cases arising from the 
April 19, 1995, bombing.  A proposed order is attached.  
 
Respectfully Submitted, 
 
HENRY L. SOLANO 
United States Attorney 
 
JOSEPH H. HARTZLER 
Special Attorney to the U.S. Attorney General  
 
SEAN CONNELLY 
Special Attorney to the U.S. Attorney General 210 W. Park 
Avenue, Suite 400 Oklahoma City, Oklahoma  73102 (405) 231-
5281  
 
 
CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE  I hereby certify that on this 22nd 
day of February 1996, a true and correct copy of this Brief was 
served by mail upon:  
 
(1)  Stephen Jones, Esq. 
Robert Nigh, Esq. 
Richard Burr, Esq. 
114 East Broadway, Suite 1100 
P.O. Box 472 
Enid, OK  73702-0472 
Counsel for Timothy James McVeigh; and 
 
(2)  Michael E. Tigar, Esq. 
Ronald G. Woods, Esq. 
D. Kate Rubin, Esq. 
1620 Mid-America Tower 
20 North Broadway 
Oklahoma City, OK 73102 
Counsel for Terry Lynn Nichols 
 
SEAN CONNELLY 

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