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REPORTER'S DAILY TRANSCRIPT OCTOBER 23, 1996 SUPERIOR COURT OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA FOR THE COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES SHARON RUFO, ET AL., N/A, PLAINTIFFS, VS. ORENTHAL JAMES SIMPSON, ET AL., DEFENDANTS. SANTA MONICA, CALIFORNIA; WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 23, 1996 9:00 A.M. DEPARTMENT NO. WEE HON. HIROSHI FUJISAKI, JUDGE (REGINA D. CHAVEZ, OFFICIAL REPORTER) (The following proceedings occurred in the Judge's Chambers, in camera, and this portion of the record is to be sealed.) SEALED PROCEEDINGS DELETED (The following proceedings were held in open court, outside the presence of the jury.) THE COURT: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. AUDIENCE: Good morning, Your Honor. THE COURT: We're going to address some motions made by both sides. The first motion the Court will address is defendant's motion to exclude expert witness Terry Lee on the ground that plaintiff has not made him readily available for deposition. MR. LAMBERT: Thomas Lambert. Thank you. Yes, Your Honor. In regard to Terry Lee, the situation is as follows: On September 3, the Court granted our motion to add Terry Lee as an expert witness. On September 5, I wrote to Mr. Blasier, saying you've been trying to reach him by telephone to schedule Terry Lee's deposition, and suggesting September 9 as a deposition date. Later that day, Mr. Blasier called me and said he would like to take Mr. Lee's deposition the very next day, Friday, September the 6th. I explained that because Mr. Petrocelli had gone out of town to assist in the Henry Lee depositions -- you will remember at that time, Mr. Medvene was a little incapacitated. So Mr. Petrocelli had gone to assist in that deposition, and I was responsible for filing a number of papers that were due Friday morning, in limine briefs and joint trial statements, among others. So I suggested to Mr. Blasier we do the deposition the following week. He said that he was going to go home to Sacramento that week and didn't want to do the deposition the following week, I then suggested that we do it on Saturday. He told me that he was leaving for Sacramento on Friday, so he really couldn't do it any of those days. I then suggested, well, let's file the papers Friday morning; we'll do the deposition Friday afternoon. He told me he had a one o'clock flight and didn't want to change his flight. So we then agreed that if we weren't able to schedule the deposition, then we'd have to do it sometime later, during trial. During jury selection, Mr. Blasier came to me and said that he would like to now schedule Terry Lee's deposition. I said fine, but I know he's in Japan on an extended trip right now, because he told me when he left, he was going to be gone for a while; I'll get you a date. I called him on Monday, and his office told me he was still out of the office. I called him this week; he is now back, and I have a proposed date for him. THE COURT: What's that. MR. LAMBERT: A week from Saturday, November the 2. MR. BLASIER: We want to have the deposition before opening. THE COURT: Mr. Blasier, I'm perfectly willing to have you depose him. Somebody's inability to depose him was not entirely the plaintiff's fault or the witness's fault. It appears to have been some of your fault. So if you want to depose him, you can. If you don't want to depose him, don't. MR. BLASIER: We do. We ask that he not refer to him in opening. I don't know whether they intend to or not. THE COURT: Well, whether you depose him or not is going to be up to you. He's going to be a witness in this case. You had the opportunity to depose him. You're going to have to bend your schedule a little bit to do that. MR. BLASIER: We intend to. THE COURT: Well, you have to. Let me give you the opportunity. He's going to testify; you're going to have the opportunity to depose him. If you don't depose him, that would be your election. Pick a date. MR. BLASIER: What was the Date that was offered? MR. LAMBERT: A week from Saturday, November the 2nd. MR. BLASIER: That's fine. MR. BAKER: Your Honor, can we keep them from referring to him in opening, because we've been trying to get expert depositions since July of this year. THE COURT: Well, you can refer to him because, Mr. Blasier, you could have deposed him, I guess, in your schedule, and you didn't. Defendant's motion to preclude reference on swatch drawing experiments by Matheson, defendant contends that plaintiff designated Matheson as an expert witness regarding tests performed by LAPD to determine blood type and related matters, and that plaintiffs' expert, Fox, testified that in deposition that he discussed with Matheson, and received notes from him offered by someone having to do with some drawing tests he did on bindle 47. Is Matheson going to be testifying with regard to some drawing tests? MR. LAMBERT: No, he's not, Your Honor. THE COURT: Okay. MR. LAMBERT: We don't intend to offer his opinion on that subject. THE COURT: Will there be some testimony regarding drawing tests by anyone? MR. LAMBERT: By Fox, who has been deposed on that subject. THE COURT: Okay. Motion to preclude reference to swatch experiment drawing expert Matheson's -- testimony by Matheson is precluded. Reference to any tests performed by him may or may not be admissible, depending on what the foundation is. MR. BLASIER: Your Honor, may we reserve the right, since Mr. Fox is going to testify about that, of withdrawing this motion so that we can cross-examine Mr. Matheson? THE COURT: Excuse me, though; you want to cross-examine Matheson? MR. BLASIER: We want to preclude Mr. Fox from testifying, as well, as a way of getting in the back door by having Mr. Fox testify to something that some other expert did. We are objecting to that, as well. But if he's going to be allowed to testify about it, we -- THE COURT: Okay. As I understand the law on expert testimony, if Fox testifies to some conclusions based upon data obtained by somebody else, that's not impermissible. So if you want to cross-examine Matheson about the data itself, you certainly may withdraw the motion. MR. BLASIER: Thank you. THE COURT: Defendant's motion to strike plaintiffs' supplemental witness list. Defendant moves to strike Goldman's supplemental witness list because those witnesses were known to him before filing a joint amended statement, which is, I believe, September 10, 1996, and they were omitted from that joint amended statement. I'll hear from the defendant. MR. GELBLUM: Your Honor, this is not at all the same situation we faced when we were moving to strike witnesses from defendant's witness list. The basis of that was failure to provide those names in discovery, Your Honor, when they were requested. And the Court ruled that they had not provided them in discovery, even though they knew about them. So they should be stricken from the list on that basis. All of these witnesses are people that have been known to the defendant for some period of time. The witness list, of course, will not change until long after discovery closes, so that there's no prejudice, because they couldn't have been deposed anyway. The witness list, the parties of Goldman exchanging and supplementing exhibit lists constantly. As late as yesterday, the defense filed an additional exhibit list. So there's absolutely no prejudice of the six people, Your Honor. Mr. Miller, Vern Miller, slight misstatement in the defendant's papers. He is a photographer, not a videographer. His sole purpose will be to authenticate one or two photographs; that's all he'll be doing. It's really not an issue of the authenticity of it; that's all he'll be doing. Mr. Peters they have known about for exactly the same length of time that we have known about him. He was revealed in the deposition of Harry Scull in this action on July 1, 1996. They had the opportunity to depose him, investigate him, talk to him, whatever they wanted to do. Mr. Wilson is a photographer for the Los Angeles Police Department. Again, he took pictures on June 13, 1994. The defense has known about him for over two years. Mr. Lovold is an LAPD officer whose sole participation in the case was to open up Mr. Simpson's Bronco at the print shed on June 14, 1996, very short witness that they've known about for two years. The fifth and sixth is the Terrance Watson. Again, like Mr. Peters, they learned about exactly when we did, at a deposition in March of this year. So they've had all the opportunity in the world to talk to him or even depose him if they wanted to. And finally detective -- Commander Gartland is a -- Captain Gartland is an officer with the LAPD, and he was involved in the original investigation. And they, again, have known about him for two years. No prejudice whatsoever to calling these people, because they've known about all of them, some before we did, and certainly none later than we did. MR. BAKER: Phil Baker for the defense. That's exactly the point. They knew about all these witnesses long before the September 10 filing: Peters on July 1, 1996 deposition; Terrance Watson on March 19, 1996 deposition, the Commander Gartland on June 11, 1996; these photographers and print chip people were known in November, December in 1995. The purpose of the joint amended statement -- the purpose of Local Rule 7.9 is to give the opposing party a chance to prepare for these witnesses. And what we did is, when we were going to exchange our witness list, we conversed with the other side and wound up exchanging simultaneously, so neither side would be sand-bagged. And the purpose is because we're going to prepare folders and prepare attorneys to be ready to analyze -- examine these witnesses when they come on the stand. They knew about these people as early as a year ago. And now they're giving us new witnesses on October 4 and October 16, well after jury selection has commenced. We have been prejudiced. And the point is, they knew about them and they should have put them on their joint amended statement. MR. GELBLUM: Your Honor, may I, one brief -- THE COURT: No. MR. GELBLUM: No. THE COURT: The basis on which the Court struck the defendant's amended witness list was the defendant's failure to comply with discovery order; to wit, failure to disclose all witnesses and interrogatories that defendant was ordered to respond to without objection. And that was a ruling that was made by this Court on September 4, 1996. The defendant's motion, in this instance, relates to no such discovery sanctions. It would appear to this Court that the defendant, in view of all these witnesses, knew of all of these witnesses well in advance of time, and was not the subject of a discovery sanction. The motion to preclude is denied. The motion to strike is denied. Plaintiff Goldman's motion for order precluding defense from referring in opening statement to Fuhrman's recent plea of nolo contendre to the charge of perjury and conviction thereon, and Fuhrman's testimony in the criminal trial, that he's expected to testify. May I hear if moving -- I'm sorry. I'll hear from the defendants. MR. LEONARD: Where I come, from this is called a sandbag, Your Honor. We went through four weeks of jury selection in which Mark Fuhrman's name came up early and often. It was referred to by both the defense and the plaintiffs. Mr. Petrocelli indicated on more than one occasion that the jury may very well hear from Mr. Fuhrman, either in person or from his testimony being read in. Obviously, the plaintiffs knew that this was going to be an issue. They knew by virtue of the fact that Mr. Fuhrman had pled the Fifth on two different occasions, and by virtue of the fact he was domiciled in Idaho; that the only way, most likely, that we'd be able to get his testimony in, would be through reading his prior -- his former testimony at the criminal trial. And yet, they sat for months, almost -- exactly 60 days after motions in limine were required to be filed. And that led us to take positions in front of the jury -- in front of every single juror, that will sit in this case. They took positions themselves. And now, as an afterthought, Mr. Petrocelli, in open court the other day, says, "Well, we don't think it's admissible." The time for filing motions in limine was 60 days ago. It was an extremely important reason that that be done. This is, as Your Honor has noted, a principal witness in this case. And we think that we've been absolutely had on this; and for that reason alone, the motion should be denied. As far as the merits of the plaintiffs' position, number one, the use of the term "cross-examination" in the statute, I think, is incidental to -- the purpose is collateral, if you will, to the purpose of the statute. The statute describes a hearsay exception that relies on the fact that at the former hearing, that the declarant was cross-examined and directly examined, that he was examined. So that now, when his testimony is read in, the triers of facts will be able to determine -- will have the ability to determine whether or not, in fact, his testimony is reliable. I've cited a situation in the evidentiary code with regard to an adverse witness, where the term "cross-examination" is used to simply refer to the examination of a witness by the party who goes second. And, in fact, I've also cited a case where the situation was, a plaintiff in a insurance bad-faith case was utilizing testimony from a prior worker's compensation hearing, where the judge was the person who had put the questions to the plaintiff, not an adverse party. It's just an examination. It had some -- I assume it had some elements of cross-examination. But the point is that there was an opportunity -- there was a similar interest in and motive to examine the witness. In this case, Detective Fuhrman was on the stand for five days. He was subject to direct and redirect examination on the very same issues that are in this case now, by the prosecutor, Marcia Clark. She spent hours and hundreds of questions asking him about all the facts and circumstances surrounding the manner in which he found the glove, the manner in which he discovered the blood on the outside of the Bronco, the manner in which he questioned Kato Kaelin, the circumstances in which he entered the Rockingham property. These are the very same issues that exist in this case. I can't imagine that the plaintiffs would be in any different position. I can't imagine that they could possibly conceive of any questions that weren't already put to this witness. Basically what's going on here, the plaintiffs want to have it both ways. They want to be able to put on summary witnesses here to talk about the chain of custody, to talk about the manner in which the evidence was collected. By virtue of the public employee record exception, they want this Court and the jury to assume, or to reach the presumption that the evidence was collected in the ordinary course of the policemen's duties; that the police, including Fuhrman, can be relied upon; that the source of these documents with regard to chain of custody is trustworthy. At the same time, they actually state in their moving papers, on page 5, that they are not in the position to vouch for Fuhrman. I don't understand that if Fuhrman -- on the one hand, they're looking for presumption that relies on the fact that Fuhrman is trustworthy, and at the same time they're saying they're not vouching for him, I just don't understand that. So, you know, that's one of the problems that exists here. This is, admittedly, a unique situation. The plaintiffs point out that there are no cases that address this. And I would suggest there are no cases that address this, because it's obvious that all the interests and purposes served by this hearsay exception are served in a case like this, either personally, where you have a witness who is subject to so much examination. So I would say that there's the same motive and interest in these plaintiffs here as there was for the prosecution. You remember, Your Honor, during jury selection, you said, "Basically, this is a civil murder case." Well, these men are civil prosecutors. They stand in the same shoes that Marcia Clark and Chris Darden stood in at that trial. If they think -- let me put it to you this way: If Fuhrman took the stand here, are they telling you that if they would cross-examine him, that they would take an adverse position with him? They would do precisely what the prosecution did. THE COURT: Who would be calling him? MR. LEONARD: We'd be calling him as an adverse witness, and they'd be re-directing him. That's what we intend to do. THE COURT: How would you call him as an adverse witness? Under what code section? MR. BAKER: 776. MR. LEONARD: 776. THE COURT: That's adverse party, calling an adverse witness. MR. LEONARD: All right, so we call -- THE COURT: That's not an adverse witness; it's your witness. MR. LEONARD: Even if we call him on direct, we elicit not simply impeachment, which is what they're suggesting, but a number of facts that demonstrate his opportunity to plant, and certainly his motive to plant. THE COURT: This certainly is an interesting issue. MR. LEONARD: I love it. But it's interesting -- but to me, with all due respect, too, it's a no-brainer. I think that. THE COURT: We'll see what the Supreme Court says about a no-brainer. Let me hear from the other side. MR. GELBLUM: Your Honor, obviously, the use of cross-examine in the statute is not collateral or incidental. That's highlighted by the fact that a difference in 1291, which is used when you're trying to introduce prior testimony, if the party who was a party to the prior action, there's a specific subdivision that expressly allows somebody to bring in testimony that was offered by that party in the prior action. There's no similar provision in 1292. THE COURT: Well, I just got defendant's oppositions right now, at the beginning of this argument. They cite Moore_versus_American_United_Life Insurance_Company,_150_Cal.App.3d_610. I haven't had a chance to look at it. You have knowledge of that case? MR. GELBLUM: Yes, Your Honor. I had a chance to look at it very late last night. And it doesn't help the defendant for two reasons: Number one, exactly opposite to this case. In that case, the plaintiff, the same party offered the testimony in both cases. Crucial distinction dispositive distinction here. They're going to offer testimony against somebody who is not a party to the prior action, and the other side is offering it. The flip side is offering it -- the prosecution offering the first case. The defense wants to offer it here. Moore was the opposite situation where the plaintiff offered it in both cases. Second, even though it wasn't an adverse party who cross-examined in the prior proceeding, it was the worker's compensation appeals court judgment cross-examined in the prior proceeding. And that was deemed to be the party who was similar to the defendant in the second proceeding. Here, as we pointed out in our papers -- THE COURT: Why was that? MR. GELBLUM: Excuse me? THE COURT: Why is that? MR. GELBLUM: Why are the parties similar? Because the -- I frankly am not very familiar with the worker's compensation system; in fact, not familiar at all. But the Court did say -- the Court in Moore said that the worker's compensation appeals court judgment had an interest in motive similar to the defendant in this case to cross-examine that witness. Here, the prosecution offered the testimony in the first case, had absolutely no motive or interest whatsoever to cross-examine this Mr. Fuhrman, none. It's a crucial distinction. The legislature obviously by putting in the provision in 1291 saying you can offer testimony against somebody who offered it in the first proceeding if they were a party but leaving that provision out of 1292 meant what it said, meant if you're not a party to the prior proceeding it can only be offered against you. If it was offered against the party in the similar position in the prior proceeding. I agree that it's a very clear issue. And the clear issue is that it cannot be admitted here. THE COURT: All right. I'll take it under submission and take a look at this case. THE COURT: We will take a recess while I read the case. (A recess was taken.) (The following proceedings were held in open court, outside the presence of the jury.) THE COURT: I've had the opportunity of reading Moore versus American United Life Insurance Company, and reading the 1292 evidence code. And I am at the present time concerned that this particular point is one of the more important issues in this case with regard to how a ruling will affect the course of the case. Moore_versus_American_United_Life is not a very satisfying case. The court in that case -- there's the issue of, in 1292, almost back-handed way, not exploring with any depth how the worker's compensation judge's interest is actually similar to or the same as that of the defendant, and the motivations are similar and the same as the defendant. It does not explain the parties that were involved in the worker's compensation proceeding, other than the fact that American United Life was not a party. It doesn't say who all the other parties were. So it's not a very definitive case. On the other hand, plaintiffs have really not cited any cases that would explain in any detail at all, really, the operation of 1292, other than citing People_versus_Green, which explains what cross-examination means, as interpreted by the court. It would appear that the evidence code is a statute that has its genesis in a uniform code that has undoubtedly been adopted elsewhere in this country. And if counsel are unable to find any cases in this jurisdiction that deal with that, counsel could at least cite to the Court some legislative history or legislative analysis and any other outside jurisdiction's interpretation of that provision, to shed light on how it would apply to the facts before this Court. So, for the present time, the Court will preclude the defendant from making any references to whether Fuhrman's testimony will be received via his testimony in the criminal trial, or whether he is expected to testify at all on this. The defense has some indication from that witness that the witness is going to appear voluntarily to testify. The Court will reserve that issue for a future time, and the defendant is ordered not to make any offer of that testimony to the jury until it has received permission to do so by the Court. And in anticipation of that, the Court will order both sides to prepare further briefings on that issue. When do you people -- plaintiffs expect to complete the case? MR. GELBLUM: When did plaintiff expect to complete our case? THE COURT: Well, I want to set up a briefing schedule with regards to that issue before the defense puts on its case. MR. GELBLUM: You want to give a couple weeks for briefing that will certainly be think longer than that. MR. BAKER: I want this issue resolved before I give my opening statements. We've been five weeks -- THE COURT: Counsel, my order is, you're precluded from making any reference to it at this time. MR. BAKER: I move for a mistrial, based on five weeks of Fuhrman before this jury trial and talking about the jury panel. THE COURT: Motion denied. MR. BAKER: I move for a stay to take a writ on the issue. THE COURT: Denied. MR. GELBLUM: We have a couple briefs for briefing, Your Honor. THE COURT: Fine. MR. GELBLUM: Your Honor, does your order also include, based on whatever's given so far, no mention of the perjury plea, as well? THE COURT: That's correct. MR. BAKER: Your Honor, we will brief this afternoon, and can we have a hearing on it tomorrow. THE COURT: I want to give the plaintiff an opportunity to brief it, also. MR. BAKER: I notice the plaintiff can delay and delay. I've got to make an opening statement in this case. And I think when they have waited 60 days after motions in limine are to be heard, to spring this on us on the eve of my opening statement that has been prepared for some time and then say now you've got to change it, I think that's prejudicial to us. I think we ought to get the issue resolved. THE COURT: The Court will order the briefing to be completed by November 1 and filed with the Court. Bring the jury in. (Jurors resume their respective seats.) THE COURT: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. JURORS: Good morning. THE COURT: At this time, we are going to be addressed by the attorneys with regard to their opening statements. I want to inform you and advise you that opening statements are not evidence; they are statements by the attorneys as to what they expect the evidence is going to show, what their theory of the case is, and how they hope to prove their case on -- their side of the case. While what they say to you is not evidence, it is, nevertheless, important for you to pay close attention to it, because this is one of the two opportunities they're going to have to address you about this case, at this time and also at the end of case, after all of the evidence is in, when, at that time, they'll have the opportunity of arguing to you and reasoning with you as to what they believe the evidence did show or failed to show, and how the law should apply to that state of the evidence, and why you should find in favor of their clients. So at this time, we'll hear if the plaintiffs. You may proceed. MR. PETROCELLI: Thank you, Your Honor. On a June evening, the 12th of June, 1994, Nicole Brown Simpson just finished putting her ten-year-old daughter, Sydney, and her six-year-old son, Justin, down to bed. She filled her bathtub with water. She lit some candles, began to get ready to take a bath and relax for the evening. The phone rang. It was 9:40 p.m. Nicole answered. And it was her mother, saying that she had left her glasses at the restaurant nearby in Brentwood, where the family had all celebrated Sydney's dance recital over dinner, just an hour before. Nicole's mother asked if Nicole could please pick up her glasses from the restaurant the next day. Nicole said, of course, good-bye, and hung up. Nicole then called the restaurant and asked to speak to a friendly young waiter there. Nicole asked this young waiter if he would be kind enough to drop her mother's glasses off. The young man obliged and said he would drop the glasses off shortly after work, on his way to meet his friend in Marina Del Rey. The young man's name was Ron Goldman. He was 25 year old. With the glasses in hand, Ron walked out of the restaurant, walked the few minutes to his apartment nearby, to change. He left the restaurant at 9:50 p.m. After Ron changed, he got into his girlfriend's car parked in his garage, and drove the short distance to Nicole Brown Simpson's home at 875 South Bundy Drive in Brentwood. Ron parked the car on the side street, walked to the front of Nicole's condominium, and turned up the walkway to the front gate. Just past the front gate were steps leading to Nicole's condominium. Ronald Goldman never made it past those steps. It was at that front gate that Ron spent the last few savage minutes of his life. It was there that his brutalized body was found next to Nicole Brown Simpson's slain body, with her mother's glasses lying next to him on the ground in an envelope. Ron Goldman's young life ended because he agreed to do a friend a favor, only to come upon her rageful killer and his. He might have run from danger, but he did not. Ron Goldman died, ladies and gentlemen, with his eyes open. And in the last furious moment of his life, Ron saw through those open eyes the person who killed his friend Nicole. And for that reason, he too had to die. And the last person Ron Goldman saw through his open eyes was the man who took his young life away: The man who now sits in this courtroom, the defendant, Orenthal James Simpson. Ladies and gentlemen, we will prove to you that Ronald Lyle Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson died at the hands of the defendant, Orenthal Simpson. Let me again introduce myself and my colleagues to you. My name is Daniel Petrocelli. With me are Edward Medvene, Peter Gelblum, Yvette Molinaro, Thomas Lambert. We all represent the Estate of Ronald Goldman and Ronald's father, Fred, in this, his last fight for justice for his son. Mr. Brewer represents Ronald's mother, Sharon Rufo, and Mr. Kelly represents the Estate of Nicole Brown Simpson. And they will each talk to you after me. In this trial, we will present to you an extraordinary amount of evidence undeniably pointing to O.J. Simpson as the person who killed Ronald Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson on the evening of June 12. This evidence includes: Mr. Simpson's blood leaving the scene of the murder at Nicole's condominium; His blood dripping to the ground from the fingers of his left hand; Mr. Simpson's blood on the glove he wore when he killed Ron and Nicole; Mr. Simpson's blood in his car that he used to drive from Bundy to his home at Rockingham, five minutes away; Mr. Simpson's blood on the driveway of his home; Mr. Simpson's blood inside his home; Ron's blood in Mr. Simpson's car; Nicole's blood in Mr. Simpson's car; Ron's blood on Mr. Simpson's glove; Nicole's blood on Mr. Simpson's glove; Nicole's blood on the socks in Mr. Simpson's bedroom; Mr. Simpson's own blood on his socks; Mr. Simpson's size 12 shoe prints in the blood of Nicole, leaving the scene of the murder, exiting towards the back of the condominium; Hair matching Mr. Simpson's hair in the knit cap he left behind at the scene of the murders; Hair matching Mr. Simpson's hair on Ronald Goldman's shirt; Strands of Nicole's hair and Ron's hair on the glove Mr. Simpson dropped on the side of his house, trying to get onto his property so no one would see him; Carpet fibers, rare carpet fibers from Mr. Simpson's Bronco found in the knit cap that he left at the scene of the murders; Matching blue-black cotton fibers found on Ronald Goldman's shirt; The glove at Rockingham and Mr. Simpson's socks in the bedroom, tying all three together. Cuts and bruises to Mr. Simpson's left hand during his brief but violent attacks on Ron and Nicole; Cuts to this day that Mr. Simpson cannot and will not explain. We will prove to you that Mr. Simpson has no alibi during the time when the murders were committed. He cannot identify a single person who can account for his whereabouts during the time of the murders. Not one person will take this stand and testify that he or she was with Mr. Simpson or spoke to Mr. Simpson during the time of these murders. We will prove how Ron and Nicole were killed quickly and savagely. They were defenseless against a man so large, powerful, strong, armed with a six-inch knife, and in a total state of rage. Nicole had no chance to fight, and died within moments of the gaping cut to her throat. Ron tried to fight, but trapped in a small, caged area, he was cut down swiftly. We will prove to you that Mr. Simpson committed the murders and sped back home, just in time to drive to the airport and catch a plane that he desperately needed to catch to have any hope of an alibi. In his extreme panic and hurry, Mr. Simpson left behind a trail of incriminating evidence, starting right at the murder scene and leading right into his bedroom. We will prove to you that Mr. Simpson was embroiled in a deeply emotional conflict with Nicole Brown Simpson after she had just ended any last attempt at reconciliation between the two. We will describe to you the rejection and pain this caused Mr. Simpson in detail, the build-up of tension, emotion, and anger between Mr. Simpson and Nicole in the last weeks and days leading up to her murder. We will prove that Mr. Simpson killed Ronald Goldman because he would have been a witness to the rageful attack and murder of Nicole, a witness who would have testified in this trial, a young man who simply, and frankly, happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. We will prove to you how Mr. Simpson's own words and actions following the murders revealed then, and still reveal today, his guilt for these deaths. You will hear Mr. Simpson on tape, just hours after the murder, unable to explain his actions the night before, during the time of the murders. You will hear him make very incriminating statements, statements that he will now try to contradict or vary. We will tell you about Mr. Simpson's flight from the police when they came to arrest him and his apparent thoughts of taking his life, thoughts that are consistent, ladies and gentlemen, only with a person who had killed, and that are totally inconsistent with a man whose children had just lost their mother at the hands of a stranger. MR. BAKER: Your Honor, I'm going to object. This is argument, not opening statement. THE COURT: Overruled. MR. PETROCELLI: Thank you. You will hear how this man came back to Los Angeles on the day after the murders and huddled with lawyers, rather than huddle with his children. MR. BAKER: I object, Your Honor. That's argument. THE COURT: Sustained. MR. PETROCELLI: We will reveal to you lies and deceptions in the sworn testimony of Mr. Simpson when questioned under oath for the first time. MR. BAKER: I'll object again, Your Honor. That's argument. MR. PETROCELLI: Your Honor, this is what we will introduce. THE COURT: Overruled. MR. PETROCELLI: We will reveal to you lies and deceptions in the sworn testimony of Mr. Simpson when questioned under oath for the first time about his involvement in these murders. We will prove to you that when asked all the important questions about his involvement in these murders, O.J. Simpson could not, would not, and did not tell the truth. MR. BAKER: Your Honor, I'll object again. This is argument. THE COURT: Overruled. MR. PETROCELLI: And finally, ladies and gentlemen, we will show that when faced with the truth of his blood, his hair, his clothing, his gloves, his shoes, his Bronco, his rage, his motive, his words, and his actions, you will see how Mr. Simpson in this trial will resort to theories of police conspiracies, frame-ups, cover-ups and incompetence, to try to explain away all of the incriminating evidence. And we will show you that there is not one ounce of evidence, not one ounce of proof, and not one ounce of truth to any of these things. We will demonstrate to you that far from these theories born out of desperation, there is only one. MR. BAKER: I object. Again, this is simply argument theory. "Born out of desperation" is argument. THE COURT: Sustained. MR. PETROCELLI: We will prove to you, ladies and gentlemen, that there is only one real and true and honest answer why all the evidence in this case points to O.J. Simpson. And that is because he is the person who killed Ronald Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson. Now, let me review this evidence with you in detail. I'd like to start with talking about the two victims in the case, Ronald Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson. Your Honor, may I? (Indicating to photos) (Counsel displays photos.) MR. PETROCELLI: Ron grew up in Illinois. His parents got divorced when he was a young boy. He and his little sister, Kimberly, went to live with their father, Fred. When Ron was 18, Ron, Kim, Fred, and Fred's new wife, Patty, all moved to Agoura, California. Ron took to southern California like a fish to water. He excelled at tennis; he loved to play softball. He got a job taking care of cerebral palsy patients. He was the only person at Pierce College who applied for a job taking care of -- helping to take care of inner-city kids and helping to turn their lives around. He was 20 years old when he moved out of his family's home, eventually winding up in Brentwood, where he loved the friendly atmosphere. He was a happy, outgoing, always smiling, handsome young man, who made friends quickly. He worked in odd jobs here and there to support himself. He did a little modeling, and he dreamed of opening up a restaurant. And in February of 1994, to pay the bills, he got a job at a trendy Italian restaurant called Mezzaluna, as a waiter. He was single. He had a girlfriend; he had lots of friends, he loved his family; he was one of those people who was always there for others, and ultimately died doing that. He was a young man, barely 25 years old, with his whole life ahead of him. Nicole Brown Simpson was 35 years old when she was killed. She was recently divorced from her ex-husband, O.J. Simpson. She had her two children living with her, Sydney and Justin. She was a full-time mother; she was a devoted mother. She lived in a condominium in Brentwood. She met Mr. Simpson at the age of 18, right after high school. And from that moment, they were together. They lived together; they were married in 1985, and they had two children. The evidence will show that they had a very tempestuous relationship, passionate at times, violent at other times, one of those relationships where they couldn't live with each other and they couldn't live without each other. Nicole left Mr. Simpson in January of 1992, filed for divorce, and moved into her own apartment with her children. A year or so later, the divorce was final. After the divorce was final, she and Mr. Simpson decided to make another go of it, and they decided they would try and reconcile, not living together, but they would start dating. This was about spring of 1993. They then spent the next year, till about three weeks before her death, trying to make this reconciliation work. Three weeks before she was killed, Nicole decided it was not working, and she ended it. One month later, she was dead. You will hear a lot more about the relationship and what was going on between Mr. Simpson and Nicole from Mr. Kelly. O.J. Simpson, the defendant, of course, was a celebrity football star, film actor, and sports caster, a man who grew up poor and became rich and famous, and charismatic and a charming man, but in the eyes of the law, a man no different from anyone else. Now, I'd like to begin the evidence proving the murders by talking about the time when Ron and Nicole were killed. And the reason for doing this is simple: After identifying when the murders occurred, we will show you that Mr. Simpson had the opportunity and the time to commit the murders. We will show you that during this time, he has no alibi. Nicole, as I said earlier, had gone to a dance recital for her daughter, went to dinner at Mezzaluna, left at around 8:30, got some ice cream with the kids, and got home before 9:00, and she put the kids to bed. She received a phone call from her mom at 9:40, asking about the glasses. Her mom asked Nicole to pick them up for her the next day. Instead of picking them up the next day, Nicole called Mezzaluna, spoke to the manager, Karen Crawford, then asked to speak to Ron Goldman, and asked Mr. Goldman to bring them over. Ron left Mezzaluna at 9:50 to go home first, change, and then deliver the glasses. Before Ron left, he spoke to his friend at the restaurant who worked there, who was tending bar that night, Stewart Tanner, and he made plans with Stewart Tanner and another person to meet together after work in Marina Del Rey, a place called Baja Cantina. Ron then left the restaurant, walked a few minutes to his home, went up to his apartment, and we know that he changed out of his waiter's clothes, and we know that he put on a different set of clothes, a pair of jeans, a shirt, and some new shoes. It took Ron about five minutes to get to his apartment. Ron apparently did not shave, from the autopsy pictures that we will show. We do not know if he showered. He left his home and drove his girlfriend's car a short distance to Nicole's condominium. He parked on Dorothy Street, around the corner. He walked up to Nicole's front gate. The time was sometime after ten o'clock p.m. Now, let's fast-forward. At 10:50 p.m., 50 minutes later or so, at the very latest, a man named Louis Karpf, who lived right next door to Nicole's condominium, walked out to his mailbox on Bundy to pick up his mail, having just gotten back from the airport. He saw Nicole's dog, a very large Japanese attack dog called an Akita, out in the street, barking. In fact, the dog frightened Mr. Karpf, so he retreated back up onto his property. Then, when the dog moved away, Mr. Karpf continued to his mailbox an got his mail. The time was about 10:50 p.m., no later than that. A few minutes later, another man is walking his dog from his apartment up the street and around the corner. His name is Steven Schwab. You will hear these folks testify. They're just citizens living in Brentwood. They have no axe to grind. Mr. Schwab came by and saw the dog, Nicole's Akita, out in the middle of street on Bundy and Gorham I'll show you in a few minutes, you can see the geography. And he saw that the dog had blood had blood on his paws, on his legs. The time was 10:55 p.m. Mr. Schwab, with his own dog, saw the dog was wandering aimlessly and barking in a very agitated way. And he decided to take the dog and go home, try to find the owner, call up the animal shelter. He got home, wasn't having any luck, and he asked a neighbor who lived in the same complex, a fellow by the name of Sukru Boztepe, who will also come here and testify, if he could take care of the dog. Mr. Boztepe said sure, and he and his wife started to tend to the dog. And then they decided to take the dog out for a walk because the dog was agitated, and maybe they could find the dog's owner. They then took the dog for a walk, and the dog pulled Mr. Boztepe on a leash which Mr. Schwab gave Mr. Boztepe. The dog pulled Mr. Boztepe in the direction of Nicole Brown Simpson's condominium. In fact, right to the sidewalk where the walkway led up to her body. And the dog stopped at that point, and the dog looked down the walkway. And Mr. Boztepe saw that the dog was staring. And he then looked, and it was extremely dark, even though he was right in front of the sidewalk there. He will testify that he did not see anything until the dog turned his head toward the bodies, and then Mr. Boztepe looked and saw Nicole's body laying at the bottom of the stairs in a pool of blood. Mr. Boztepe then quickly raced across the street and knocked on neighbors' doors to get somebody to call the police. And eventually, the police were summoned. And they arrived at around 12:00, a little after midnight. So we know that these murders occurred, from the evidence that we will present, sometime after 10:00, when Ron left his apartment, and sometime before 10:, 50 when Mr. Karpf saw Nicole's dog out in the street. And five minutes later, Mr. Schwab saw it with blood. Between 10:00 and 10:50 -- we can even narrow it further than that, ladies and gentlemen. There's another man who will come here and testify. His name is Robert Heidstra. Mr. Heidstra is a dog lover. He has a couple of dogs. He walks them several times a day, takes the same route, knows every inch of the way. He walked his dog on this evening, two of his dogs, and they were older. He Left his house sometime after ten o'clock, closer to 10:15, and he walked around the corner at this point. I think I will show you a map. (Counsel displays map.) THE COURT: Can you all see this? JURORS: Yes. THE COURT: Here's Nicole's condominium; here's 875 South Bundy right here. Mr. Heidstra lived on Dorothy. MR. BAKER: Your Honor, pardon me. Can you put it up next to those pictures so that we can all see it? MR. PETROCELLI: I don't know if it will stand up here, but we'll try. THE COURT: Perhaps you can move the easel over. MR. PETROCELLI: That's better. MR. BAKER: Could you just put it up the next level; then everybody, even in the back, can see it. MR. PETROCELLI: Ah, fine. MR. BAKER: Thank you. MR. PETROCELLI: Okay. Mr. Heidstra lived right here. He left his apartment around 10:15 and took this route, walking his dogs. This is Nicole's condominium; this is Bundy. This is an alleyway going from Bundy to Dorothy. About 10:30, 10:35, Mr. Heidstra reached this point with his two dogs, and he heard a very loud barking. He immediately recognized the dog to be Nicole's dog, because he was familiar with Nicole's dog, having walked by her condominium many times and seen the dog. The dog was barking in a very agitated way, and Mr. Heidstra was frightened that his animals might confront Nicole's dog, so he decided not to walk in front of Nicole's condominium, but to take a detour. And he went this way down the alleyway. So instead of going this way, he cut down this alleyway so he wouldn't have to go by the dog. When he got to this point of the alleyway, directly opposite Nicole's condominium, Mr. Heidstra will testify that he heard a man, young male voice, yell, "Hey, Hey, Hey." Then he heard a deeper voice respond. Then he heard the other man yell, "Hey, Hey." And then he heard a clanging of a gate. When he heard those sounds, he will testify that it was approximately 10:35 to 10:40 right here. He then continued his walk across the alleyway until he reached Dorothy, and he stopped and paused. There's a big streetlight illuminating Dorothy and Bundy right here. He looked down the street while his dogs were doing their business, and he then saw a car pull up to this light, or to this stop sign, I should say, and make a right turn, and he got a crystal clear view of that car as it approached and turned right. That car, he will testify, was a white utility-type or jeep-like automobile with tinted windows, like a Ford Bronco. The time was 10:40 to 10:45. At the latest, 1045. We will prove through Mr. Heidstra testimony and other testimony, that Mr. Hide take heard Ronald Goldman being confronted and attacked by the defendant. The time was 10:35 to 10:40, in that range, approximately. Now, where was Mr. Simpson at that time? That's the next question. Here's what we know: Mr. Simpson had driven alone to his daughter's dance recital earlier on Sunday, about five o'clock. He was not invited to dinner with the Brown family and his children. And he went home alone after the recital. They all went out to dinner at Mezzaluna Restaurant. Mr. Simpson got to his house on Rockingham about 6:30 or seven o'clock. He was home alone that evening, ladies and gentlemen. Nobody else was in the house. His daughter, Arnel, was out for the evening, and she would not return until about 1:00, 1:30 in the morning. Mr. Simpson had a house guest living in a guest room on the side of the house. His name was Kato Kaelin. He was there in the room passing time at 9:11 p.m., and we know this time exactly because there's a phone record. Mr. Kaelin is on the phone long-distance to San Diego to a friend, when Mr. Simpson comes to his door and knocks on it. Mr. Kaelin gets off the phone. We know it's 9:11 p.m. from the phone record. Mr. Simpson told Mr. Kaelin that he needed change to go to the airport, to tip the skycap. He said he was going to the airport and needed change to tip the skycap. Mr. Kaelin said all he had was a 20, and he gave it to Mr. Simpson. Mr. Simpson then said that he was going out to eat, to get a burger. Mr. Kaelin then asked Mr. Simpson if he could go along, and Mr. Simpson mumbled, "okay." They then got in the car. Mr. Simpson had two automobiles: He had a Ford Bronco and he had a Bentley. He got into the Bentley that was parked in his driveway, and they drove to McDonald's. It was sometime after 9:11 p.m. They got to McDonald's, ordered the food. Mr. Simpson ate his hamburger in the car very quickly, and drove back. He got back to the house around 9:30, 9:35 at the very latest. How do we know that? Mr. Kaelin was not invited to eat his food with Mr. Simpson; Mr. Simpson already ate his food in the car. Mr. Kaelin got his food and walked around to the back of the house and went into his room and picked up the phone and made another long-distance phone call to the same guy in San Diego. And that call is at 9:37 p.m. So we know that Mr. Simpson and Mr. Kaelin are back by then. So we can estimate it took a couple of minutes to get to the room from where he got out of the car. So basically, Mr. Simpson is back at Rockingham by 9:35 p.m. Now, at 9:35 p.m. until 10:55 p.m., Mr. Simpson's whereabouts cannot be corroborated by anybody. 9:35 p.m. to 10:55 p.m., Mr. Kaelin is the last person to see Mr. Simpson at 9:35. Mr. Simpson was not seen by anybody alive, anybody who will testify, until 10:55. One hour and 20 minutes unaccounted for. It was during this one hour and 20 minutes that the murders occurred. Now, what happened at 10:55? Allan Park is a limousine driver who will come here and he will testify. He had never driven before for Mr. Simpson. Mr. Simpson's regular driver was not available on this evening to take Mr. Simpson to the airport for a red-eye flight. Normally the driver would be there around quarter to 11:00 to get Mr. Simpson to the airport. Mr. Simpson had no idea that his normal driver was not going to show up, and that this new person was going to show up. Well Mr. Park had never picked up Mr. Simpson before, and he was a bit nervous, and he wanted to be on time. He left his home at Torrance at 9:45 p.m. to get to Brentwood -- to Rockingham, 360 North Rockingham, where Mr. Simpson lives, in plenty of time to get Mr. Simpson to the airport. (Counsel displays diagram of Rockingham Avenue.) MR. PETROCELLI: Mr. Park comes driving -- this is Mr. Simpson's property at 360 North Rockingham. You have Ashford Street and you have Rockingham Avenue. And there are two driveways to this property. You have this driveway on Ashford Street, and you have this driveway on Rockingham. And there are gates here where you can be buzzed in, and the gates open and come in. There's only one intercom, this one at Ashford Street. If you want to get into the house and you pull up to the gate on Ashford, you have to pick up this phone that's right outside the gate, and you call in and it rings on the telephone inside Mr. Simpson's house on any number of phones. And there's even a little light that lights up saying gate. So anybody inside knows it's the gate. They can then press a button and then the gate opens automatically; the person comes in, and the gate -- press another button, and the gate closes. And that's how people routinely are let into the property. And Mr. Park was given instructions by his boss, a man named Dale St. John, to come to the property this way at this certain time, and then buzz, and he'll be let in. Again to be early, he drove up Rockingham, and he wasn't quite sure, you know, which house was Mr. Simpson's, so he stopped and looked when he got to this area, and he saw on the curb here, the numbers 360. Now, that told him that this was Mr. Simpson's house, 360 North Rockingham. He stopped and paused, looking out of the driver's side window, and visibly saw the curb and the numbers. And he did not see, and he will so testify, any cars parked there at that time. He did not see the Bronco or any other automobile near the numbers or anywhere along this curb. No cars were parked. Now, what time was it when Allan Park drove up? According to him, it was 10:20 p.m. Now, understand something: Mr. Simpson will testify that he was home at 10:20 p.m., and he will further testify that his car was right here, where he claims he parked it earlier in the evening. But Allan Park will destroy that alibi. MR. BAKER: I object. That's argument. I object, Your Honor. THE COURT: I'm going to ask you to save your argument for -- MR. PETROCELLI: Okay. THE COURT: -- for closing argument. MR. PETROCELLI: Allan Park will testify that when he drove up at 10:20, there was no car there. Furthermore, Park pulls around the corner at Ashford -- it's about 10:25 -- stops the car right here, realizes it's too early to go inside and call Mr. Simpson, so he smokes a cigarette. He then gets ready to pull into that driveway and phone in. But instead of doing that, he decides just to be sure, he makes one more pass around to Rockingham, to make sure this is the right address, and he checks the curb again. And it's 10:40 at this point in time, and there's no Bronco there. And he sees the address, 360 North Rockingham. Again, it's 10:40 p.m. or so. He pulls back around, comes back in, pulls into the driveway, gets out of the car, and then picks up the phone and calls in. Okay. No one answers the phone. It rings and it rings, as he will testify, two, three, four times. Nobody answers the phone. It's 10:40 p.m. He then tried paging his boss, Dale St. John, to find out what -- you know, what's going on: What should I do? He didn't get an answer from his boss; he couldn't get through. It's now about 10:45 p.m. Finally, well, what he did here is, he got back out of the car, as he will testify and he rang the intercom again: Second time he rang, another two, three, four times it rings. No answer. Then gets back in the car, starts calling some people up. Finally gets ahold of this guy, Dale St. John, and he makes a call to him from the cell phone in the car, so there's a cell phone record that establishes definitively when Mr. Park got in touch with his boss. The time was 10:52. Okay. 10:52 and 17 seconds. That call lasted until 10:55 and 17 seconds. So we have that time, for sure, pinned down. So Park will testify he's in the car, is talking to St. John at 10:52: What should I do? He's not home. Near the end of that call, he sees a man approach. He -- you see, he's in the car. He has a -- he will testify that he has a clear view. These trees do not stick out in the driveway. And you'll see it in the photographs: He has a clear view here. Clear view. He's looking straight ahead. His front bumper is touching up against the gate. He's got his parking lights on, his headlights off, and he's looking straight ahead as he's talking to his boss, and he can see the front entrance way to Mr. Simpson's house. All of a sudden, he sees a man approach here, a younger man, a male with blond hair. He didn't know who this guy is. And he indicated to his boss that he saw somebody. Continues to talk to his boss. And then a moment later, he sees another person who he describes as large, wearing dark clothing, six feet, 200 pounds, walking in this direction, kind of at a brisk clip. Okay. Sees a guy -- first he sees this guy, then a moment later, he sees this other person. He then gets off the phone with his boss, he gets out of the car, and he rings Mr. Simpson's house again, figuring he's home. And then Mr. Simpson picks up for the first time, after he saw the figure heading towards the front door. He will also testify that once the figure headed towards the front door, he saw some lighting on. He gets out of the car, and a moment later, somebody answers the phone, and it's Mr. Simpson. And he recognized his voice. So we can tell from Allan Park's records, his phone records, that he saw this person entering the house at around 10:55 p.m. Mr. Simpson will admit that that was him entering the house at 10:55 p.m. So we know Mr. Simpson's whereabouts cannot be tracked, beginning at 10:55, back to 9:35. That's the hour and 20 minutes that he's not accounted for. Now, what will Mr. Simpson say about what he was doing during this time? You will -- you will hear him say that he was home the entire time. However, there's a cell phone record that shows a call that he made from his cell phone at 10:03 p.m. to his friend, Paula Barbieri, tying to track her down. We know he called her, but didn't make contact at 10:03 p.m. Mr. Simpson, the next day when he came back from Chicago, told the police when he gave a statement, that the very last thing he did before he went off to Chicago, when the limousine was waiting for him, was go out to the Bronco to get his cell phone. So Mr. Simpson admitted to the police that his cell phone was in the Bronco when he left for the airport, which was after eleven o'clock. So we know that Mr. Simpson had to have been in his Bronco at 10:03 when he made that call. Mr. Simpson will say that he was packing and rushing around during this time frame. We will show that his trip was for only one day. Mr. Simpson will say that he was lying on his bed, reading a book, starting to nod off. We will show you that he was taking a red-eye, where people usually sleep on the flight. Mr. Simpson will say that he was chipping golf balls. We will show you that it was nighttime. No one had seen him chip golf balls at nighttime. You will hear him say that he took his dog for a walk around the block during this one-hour-and-20-minute period. He can produce no witness who saw him taking that dog for a walk. You will hear that he was home, up in his room, but he did not answer two separate calls Alan Park, starting at 10:40, and then again at 10:45. Mr. Park said when Mr. Simpson picked up the phone, Mr. Simpson said he had overslept, but he was taking a red-eye. You will hear Mr. Simpson say a lot of other things about where he was during that time. And we will have a lot more to say when we cross-examine him. But the important thing to remember is this: About this one hour and 20 minutes, there isn't anybody who can account for his whereabouts. Nobody. Now, there's one other thing I'd like to mention before I move on to the next subject. Mr. Kaelin was seen, as I told you, walking out of his room, onto the property, was seen by Mr. Park around 10:45 p.m. The man with the blond hair that Mr. Park saw and did not recognize was Kato Kaelin. Now, why was Kaelin out there at 10:54 p.m., walking around about three or four minutes earlier? Around 10:50, Mr. Kaelin heard loud noises against the wall of his room. He was lying against the wall on his bed, talking on the telephone, and he heard some loud noises. And it shook the wall, and it even moved the picture; that's what he will testify. He thought there was an earthquake. He asked the person on the phone, was there an earthquake, talking to a woman named Rachel Ferrara who lived locally. And she said she didn't feel an earthquake. He was a little frightened. He got off the phone; he got a light, a little, small penlight, and he walked outside to go investigate where those sounds came from and what had happened. And I'll have to show you when we get another chart during the course of his testimony, but he walked out of his room, which is back here, came down this way, walks across here, and then went down to the side of the garage to this point here, where he heard the noise. You will hear Mr. Kaelin's testimony about going back to that side of the house and what he saw. What you will not hear, however, from the defense in this case will be one shred of evidence either from Mr. Simpson or from any other witness -- MR. BAKER: Your Honor, I'm going to object. That's argument that you will not hear from us. MR. PETROCELLI: There will be no evidence in this case presented by the defense as to what caused that noise that Kato Kaelin heard. We will prove that was caused by Mr. Simpson returning to his property by going on the side of the house, to avoid being detected by Alan Park, who is waiting out on the street. But you won't hear any other evidence as to what caused those noises. THE COURT: We'll take a ten-minute recess. Don't talk about the case; don't form or express any opinions, ladies and gentlemen. (Recess.) (Jurors resume their respective seats.) THE COURT: You may resume. MR. PETROCELLI: Thank you, Your Honor. What I'd like to do now, ladies and gentlemen, is review for you the physical evidence found when the murders were investigated and then I would like to show you how we will prove that it links the defendant, Mr. Simpson, to the murders. Evidence was found, virtually all the evidence was found in three locations. Nicole's condominium, 875 South Bundy, Mr. Simpson's Bronco, and Mr. Simpson's home, 360 north Rockingham. Let me start with the physical evidence at Bundy. I'm not going to show you photographs now. I'm going to let the witnesses show you photographs. The bodies of the victims, of course, were found at 875 south Bundy. There's a walkway up to the steps and Nicole's body was found at the bottom of the first step in the pool of blood. She was still wearing the black dress she had worn for her recital. She was bear foot. She had a watch on and she had rings on her fingers. Ron was found slumped against a tree a few feet from Nicole's body in a small caged-in area. And I say caged, you'll see photos of it, it's caged because there's a fence that goes around this little dirt area and there's a big street in the middle which sort of bisects this area. And Mr. Goldman's body was found against the tree and it's a very small area. And it's next to the stairs where Nicole's body was found. Ron had a pager and the pager was found lying on the ground next to him. Ron's keys to the car were found lying on the ground next to him. The envelope with Judy Brown's glasses was found lying on the ground next to him, obviously indicating that Ron had never got past the stairs with the envelope. In between Ron and Nicole's body, -- bodies, there was a single leather glove on the ground. There was also a knit cap, a dark knit cap, starting from where Nicole's body was and leading to the back of the condominiums, a long walkway that goes to the back where there's a gate. There with shoe prints walking towards the back in blood, bloody shoe prints. There were also some shoe prints in between Nicole's body and Ron's body. All of these shoe prints are all of the same size, size 12. Next to the shoe prints going towards the back of the condominium were drops of blood. To the left of the shoe prints, as though somebody had cut themselves from the left hand or the left fingers, droplets of blood, four or five. At the end of the walkway, there's a gate that goes out to the back of the house, then there were three blood stains found on this gate. Later examination of some of this evidence showed that Ron's shirt had some fibers on it and had some hair on it. The knit cap was found to have some hair on it. There were also fibers found in the knit cap. That's kind of the general picture of what we saw at Bundy. By the way, while we're at Bundy, the door to Nicole's home, you go up the steps, you walk a little past and there's a door, front door to her condo. The door was open. The lights were on inside. There were candles. There was a bathroom upstairs that she used near her bedroom. It had water in it and her children were sleeping in the bed. None of Nicole's jewelry that she had on was taken. None of Ron's possessions was taken. Nothing inside the house was disturbed or removed. The house was not ransacked. The children were left unharmed in their bed. Expensive automobiles in the garage, one being a Ferrari, they were not taken. Everything was left intact. Obviously indicating that there was no robbery here. No breaking and entry, no burglary, no evidence of that will be presented in this case. Nor will there be any evidence presented that this was -- there was any sexual assault upon Nicole. Her clothes were not torn, nothing was ripped. There will be no evidence of that. We will prove from these facts that Nicole was the target of these murders. These murders did not occur in a convenience store or an ATM machine. They occurred at her home. We will prove that Ron Goldman -- nobody knew Ron Goldman was going to be at Nicole's home except Ron Goldman. Nicole and Karen Crawford at Mezzaluna, when Ron left at 9:50, he told Karen he was going to drop these glasses off and he got them from Karen. And then a half hour later or so, he's at Nicole's condo and he's killed. Nobody -- there's no evidence that will be presented that anybody knew Ron Goldman was going to Nicole's condominium. He went there at the last minute unexpectedly. Now, the physical evidence in the Bronco, let me talk about that. The Bronco was found parked on -- on Rockingham when the police arrived in the wee hours of the morning. It was locked and it was parked right near this curb where it said 360 and you'll see photos of that. Right where Alan Park drove by and did not see a Bronco. It had blood, little stain of blood on the outside of the door near the door handle, driver side door and it also had some stains of blood down at the bottom of the door. And officers will testify, detectives will testify, detective Lange, Detective Phillips, Detective Vannatter, Detective Gonzalez and others that they could see inside the Bronco through the windows and saw blood inside as well. When the Bronco was towed the next day to the LA print shed and then opened the following day, it had to be opened with a slim jim. Blood was found in various places inside on the steering wheel, on the instrument panel, on the seats, on the center console, and on the driver side door panel, in the area where there's a little well, where you open up the door to get out. The handle is as though onea left hand or left finger was bleeding when they tried to open up the handle to get out, right in that area, there was blood found. There was also blood found on the carpet of the driver side in the shape of a shoe print. Now, at Rockingham itself, 360 north Rockingham, there is evidence found both outside the house and inside the house. Outside the house, there were blood drops outside the Bronco on the ground and there were blood drops then up the driveway. There were blood drops found inside the foyer of Mr. Simpson's house. When you open up the front door, there's low a foyer there were blood drops found on that floor. There were blood drops found in Mr. Simpson's bathroom on the floor. There were socks found, a pair of dark socks on a rug next to Mr. Simpson's bed in his bedroom. Later examination of these socks showed there were blood stains, discoloration not easily visible to the naked eye. Outside the house, on the side of the house were Kato Kaelin heard the notices, there was a leather glove found for the right hand. The leather glove found at Bundy was for the left hand. This leather glove matched the glove at Bundy, one was right, one was left, both brown leather gloves. When this glove was examined, it was loaded with evidence. It had blood stains on it. It had strands of hair and it had fiber on it. Now, let me explain to you how this evidence that I just described briefly to you ties into Mr. Simpson, how it identifies him. First of all, I'd like to talk for a bit about the wound to the victims, and this is obviously a difficult area to discuss and you will be seeing some photographs, pictures during the course of the trial. Both victims died of knife wounds. We will call to the witness stand, one of the nation's most renowned pathologist. His name is Dr. Werner Spitz who we hired to independently examine the photographs, autopsy reports and make some conclusions about the autopsies done on Ron and Nicole in the nature of the wounds. I should say, the person who performed the autopsy, Dr. Irwin Golden, is on the witness list for this case. He is also available to testify if needed. Now, a quick word of Dr. Spitz, he is one of the -- you will here he is one of the most renowned pathologists, the author of numerous authoritative works. He served on various committees, including committees investigating the assassination of John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Junior. Now, Dr. Spitz, after reviewing the materials, he will testify when he's called that Nicole had some superficial defensive type wound, very superficial, not very many. She had stab wounds to the neck, and she had a gapping slash across her throat. This last wound was so deep in such -- and such a devastating cut that it almost, the blade almost hit her spinal cord. It was this last wound that caused her death, caused her to bleed out massively and she died moments later. Ronald Goldman, all of his wound were also knife wounds. He had one wound that bled out onto his pants, a wound to his leg. He had a wound to the neck that severed a vein. He had two wounds to his chest below his armpits, and he had a deep wound in the abdominal area. Those are the basic wounds that he had. Dr. Spitz will testify that all of the wounds to Ron and Nicole were consistent with one knife. And one assailant. The blood testing done in this case also shows that there is a drop of blood on Ron Goldman's boot, on the bottom of the boot which later testing revealed to be a mixture of Ron's blood and Nicole's blood. And this blood drop will show that one knife was used on both victims, hence transferring one blood to the other. As you will see from the photos of the crime scene, Nicole was kill at one area at the bottom of the stairs and Ron was killed at a separate area next to the stairs. And there are some bloody foot prints between Ron's body and Nicole's body and we will offer this evidence to prove Ron and Nicole were killed in sequence, meaning take they were not confronted and killed together at the same time. In addition, the evidence will show that there is only one set of foot prints throughout the whole crime scene, all size 12. There will be no evidence presented that anybody else that evening left any foot prints. And there will be no evidence presented that anybody else was involved that night in these murders. The evidence that we will present will show that both Ron and Nicole struggled very briefly before they were killed. There was no blood on Nicole's feet. She was found laying down in a pool of blood and there was no blood on her feet. None of her blood on her feet, meaning that she was already down when she was cut across the neck and she bled out. When she was cut on the neck, Dr. Spitz will testify that she lived no longer than about 15 seconds or so from that point. Dr. Spitz will explain that Ron Goldman did try to fight valiantly, but he too was killed quickly. He was pinned in this small caged area, taken by surprise and he did not have room to maneuver, to defend himself let alone fight back. His area is very small. And if you try to throw a punch or get your arms up, there's not much you could do except ward off the knife blows that were being delivered one after the other and that is why we see cuts on Ron's hands. One of the early wounds to Ron, as Dr. Spitz will testify, severed the aorta in the abdominal area, the abdominal cavity. This caused an instant loss of blood pressure, and an immense internal bleeding to the surrounding tissue. After this wound, Ron was rendered totally defenseless. And Dr. Spitz will testify that he could have struggled about 60 seconds before collapsing to his death. It was during this struggle with Ron most likely when the glove came off and the hat came off. Also, Mr. Simpson sustained injuries to his left hand in the nature of cuts and gouges. Dr. Spitz has examined photographs of these injuries and he will testify that these are very likely, gouges caused by the finger nails of either Ron or Nicole digging into Mr. Simpson's hand in order to try to get free. The evidence will also show that, as I said before, Nicole bled outward after she was already down on the ground incapacitated, and Ron bled largely internally. Therefore, the evidence does not suggest that Mr. Simpson would have been drenched with blood nor does it suggest that he would have bruises and marks all over his body. Now, let me tie in something that we talked about earlier. We were talking about the time. Okay. And Mr. Heidstra will testify that he heard a voice of a man say hey, hey, hey around 10:35 or so. Now, we will show that the struggle with Mr. Goldman was brief. The struggle with Nicole was even briefer. That in a matter of minutes, both were killed. Mr. Heidstra heard hey, hey, hey around 10:35 or so. Couple of minutes later, the killings were done at the latest and Mr. Simpson would have had plenty of time to leave the crime scene, get into his car, get back to Rockingham in time to have made the sounds that Kato Kaelin heard at 10:50 p.m. and to have been seen by Alan Parks at 10:55 p.m. The evidence will show that the person who did this left this crime scene in an extreme hurry. They left behind all kinds of incriminating evidence. Blood drops, bloody shoe prints, a single glove, a hat. This was a person in a big hurry. Now, the defense on this point, I'll just stick with it a few minutes longer, will try to convince you --. MR. BAKER: Your Honor, this isn't argument what we're trying to convince -- THE COURT: Sustained. MR. PETROCELLI: The defense will present evidence. MR. BAKER: I object. This is opening as to what he's going to present. THE COURT: That is correct. You cannot presuppose what evidence they will present. MR. PETROCELLI: They have a . THE COURT: They may and or they may not offer the evidence. MR. PETROCELLI: Very well, Your Honor. THE COURT: It's a contention -- that was in a contention. You may argue it. MR. PETROCELLI: It is. THE COURT: Overruled. You may argue it. Overruled. MR. PETROCELLI: The defense position, one of the defense says that Mr. Simpson did not have enough time to commit the murders. And the basis for the defense's position is that the struggle with Ron and Nicole lasted too long. MR. BAKER: Your Honor, I'm going to object. This is argument. I want to be heard on this. THE COURT: You may make up your contentions. MR. PETROCELLI: Is the reporter . THE COURT: The reporter. (The following proceedings were held at bench:) MR. PETROCELLI: One of their critical positions in this case is that there was a long struggle. THE COURT: My question to you was: Was there a contention interrogatory that was responded to, to that effect? MR. BAKER: Absolutely. MR. PETROCELLI: I don't have it. Mr. Baker won't disavow that that's not his position. He's just trying to say that he can't discuss it, even though it's a contention. MR. BAKER: Don't say what my -- THE COURT: Go ahead. MR. BAKER: It's my position, in opening statements, they can show what their evidence is going to present. They cannot argue that the evidence or contention that we say is our case is ineffectual. That's not opening statement. Opening statement is what their case is, what their evidence is going to prove, what they have a burden of proving. It is not to rebut what our position may or may not be at the time of trial. And for him to do that, it then becomes argument. And he's got to, in my opinion, save that for the conclusion of his case. MR. PETROCELLI: Your Honor, a good part of my opening is going to be devoted to addressing the defense contentions. One is that there's a long struggle and the time was insufficient to that there was a conspiracy. THE COURT: Mr. Petrocelli, you may, in your opening statement, state it in a form that if it is a -- if it is going to be a contention that there was insufficient time or defense will show thus and thus and so on, but I think it would be improper to presuppose that Mr. Baker is going to offer any particular evidence on any particular subject raised by his contentions. You may raise it as a hypothetical in affect and you may state the evidence that you are going to offer that a contention is made as to this. Or any contentions made to that. You cannot say that he is going to actually raise that as a contention. MR. PETROCELLI: In this case, they're going to put on an expert that will say that the struggle took 15 minutes. THE COURT: Mr. Baker may decide not to call this man at all. MR. PETROCELLI: Then I'd like to be able to say that if the defense offers evidence that the struggle was wrong, then I would like to go on. MR. BAKER: With great respect, I think he has to. He can say that the evidence will show it doesn't take 10 to 15 minutes, but he can't start presupposing what I'm going to put on. He can say all he wants about why it took a minute or anything like that. THE COURT: Mr. Petrocelli, I'm a sympathetic person to the defense position. You're trying to shape his argument and shape his presentation of his case and I don't think that's appropriate. MR. PETROCELLI: We're going to get into this on the planning and conspiracies. I intend to show that there's no evidence at all to support any of those issues, Your Honor. I mean, that's what he's been talking to the jury about for 30 days. THE COURT: This is opening statement. You're going to be setting forth what your evidence is going to be. MR. PETROCELLI: I would also like to point out that there will be no evidence presented with respect to other. THE COURT: You don't know that. MR. PETROCELLI: I do know that from the interrogatory answer that there will be no evidence presented, for example, there were two gloves at Bundy. There will be no evidence presented. THE COURT: You may state that. MR. PETROCELLI: Those are the kind of things. THE COURT: But you cannot state Mr. Baker's defense. MR. PETROCELLI: I'll try to. MR. BREWER: If we say defense may contend the following then we can address that in opening statements. THE COURT: No, I think Mr. Baker's right. I think you cannot state what his defense is going to be. MR. BREWER: If it's raised in a hypothetical form. THE COURT: No, I don't think so because -- MR. BREWER: I THOPBLG> thought you said if he raised it in a hypothetical form. THE COURT: I think Mr. Baker convinced me otherwise. MR. PETROCELLI: That's the big part of the case, that the struggle was 10, 20 minutes. Can I introduce that was their position that there was struggle, lasted long enough to say that Simpson couldn't be the person and I want to demonstrate why the evidence is such and so you have to understand the context in which I'm talking about this? They don't understand the context if I can't say it was fighting around and at 10:35 that there was a 20 minutes fight. There's no way it could be. THE COURT: You can save it for your closing argument. You wanted to -- want to explain to the jury what evidence you are going to offer, you may. And you can state it for the purpose of showing that the struggle lasted only such and such a minute. But your front loading this and I don't think that's appropriate because we haven't heard any evidence yet. MR. PETROCELLI: We do have his specific contentions in this regard. THE COURT: I understand that. MR. PETROCELLI: Including the timing which I don't have with me but I can show you after lunch. MR. BAKER: That' not the issue. MR. PETROCELLI: I'll move forward on this point for now. THE COURT: Okay. Thanks. (The following proceedings were resumed in open Court in the presence of the jury.) MR. PETROCELLI: Just to conclude this point, then I'm going to move on to a different topic. The evidence that we will present through the physical evidence at the crime scene through the testimony regarding the wound delivered to the victims, through the testimony of Dr. Spitz is that Ron and Nicole struggled briefly and died quickly and that there was more than ample time for Mr. Simpson to leave there 10:35, 10:40 and even as late as 10:45 to get back to Rockingham by 10:50. Now, with respect to the specific evidence that was found at Bundy, starting with the hair evidence, we will call to the stand a man named Douglas Deedrick who's an agent with the FBI and he works in the laboratory that deals with hair and fiber's. He examined the hair and fiber evidence that was found in this case. Starting with the hat, the knit cap found at Bundy, Mr. Deedrick will testify. What Mr.` Deedrick did is he examined that hat, the hair, the hair found in that hat and he examined some samples of Mr. Simpson's hair provided by Mr. Simpson and he compared them. And Mr. Deedrick will testify that there was in effect, a match between the two. That they shared the same microscopic characteristics, that is Mr. Simpson's hair and the hair found in the hat at Bundy. Mr. Deedrick will also testify, and by the way, Mr. -- We'll present evidence showing that Mr. Simpson has knit caps and had knit caps at that time just like the one found at Bundy. Mr. Deedrick will also testify that hair found on Ron Goldman's shirt matched Mr. Simpson's hair. He will testify that hairs found on the Rockingham glove, the glove found behind the side of Mr. Simpson's house, matched Nicole's hair and other hair on it matched Ron Goldman's hair. Mr. Deedrick will testify that he found certain rose beige fibers on the knit cap at Bundy, particular rare type of carpet fiber that he will say is found in very few Bronco automobiles. And he will testify that after comparing the fibers, the carpet fibers found in the hat to the carpet fibers in Mr. Simpson's car, that they matched. They shared the same microscopic characterization. He also examined the fibers, carpet fibers found on the Rockingham glove and he said those carpet fibers are the same fibers as found in Mr. Simpson's car. He also found a different kind of fiber, a blue black cotton fiber in several different places and it was the same blue black cotton fiber found in these places: 1, Ron Goldman's shirt; 2, the glove found at Rockingham; and 3, the socks in Mr. Simpson's bedroom. That again, Mr. Deedrick will testify all these fibers matched indicating that they all came from a common source. On the gloves, one glove was found at Bundy, one glove was found at Rockingham. Both gloves Aris leather like, extra large, color brown. We will present evidence in this case that Nicole Brown Simpson on December 18, 1990, purchased two pairs of Aris leather light gloves, extra large, color brown and color black. She purchased them at Bloomingdale's in New York city close to where she and Mr. Simpson had an apartment. Only Bloomingdale's, by the way, sold these gloves in the United States and only two hundred pairs were sold in 1990 to 1991 when Nicole bought them in Mr. Simpson's extra large size. After December 18, 1990 when Nicole bought these gloves, we have pictures that we will present showing Mr. Simpson wearing both pairs of gloves. We have six photographs, somebody wearing the black gloves, somebody wearing the brown gloves. By the way, these gloves, stylewise, are made to be skin tight, so that you have dexterity when you're using them. They're not big ski gloves. They're very tight-fitting gloves. You will hear testimony from the woman who was in charge of these gloves, of selling these gloves at Bloomingdale's. Now, we have asked Mr. Simpson to produce the gloves that he was seen wearing in the photographs and he will not be able to present, in court, those gloves. Neither pair of them. We will prove that the gloves that he was wearing in those photographs and that Nicole bought on December 18, 1990, the brown pair, were the ones he used when he killed Ron and Nicole leaving one at Bundy and one at Rockingham. Let me turn to the show prints. We will call to the stand, FBI agent William Bodziak who is one of the country's most foremost experts in shoe print impressions. And he will testify after reviewing all of the evidence, the photographs and so forth, crime scene pictures, taking measurements and doing lots of investigative work around the world that these shoe prints that were left at Bundy were all the same size, size 12. That there were no other shoe prints left behind that night. He will explain that only nine percent of the population wears size 12. Mr. Simpson wears size 12. He was able to take an impression of the bloody shoe print and track down the precise type of sole that made that bloody shoe print and it's a Silga sole made in Italy that is used on a shoe called a Bruno Magli or Bruno Magli as some people say, shoe. It's an expensive casual shoe. It costs $160, sold in only 40 stores in the United States in 1991 and 1992. It's a casual shoe, sort of leather type shoe. It's dark in color, particular style here is called the Lorenzo style and it has this Silga sole which has like a waffle-type pattern to it. That is the sole that William Bodziak will say made that shoe print, and that sole is only used on a Bruno Magli shoe. So we know and can prove that that shoe that left a shoe print was a Bruno Magli shoe, size 12, Lorenzo style, dark in color. At Mr. Simpson's deposition we asked him whether he wore those type of shoes and his testimony is as follows on this and we will present it to you at page 1305. Question was about whether he wore Bruno Magli shoes, the kind that left the bloody shoe prints. "Q. Did you ever buy shoes that you knew wore Bruno Magli shoes. "A. No. "Q. How do you know that? "A. Because I know Bruno Magli makes shoes that look like the shoes they had in court that's involved in this case I would have never owned those ugly-ass shoe. "Q. You thought those were ugly-ass shoes. "A. Yes. That deposition was taken back in February, 1996. A month or so later after that deposition, a photograph appeared in the National Enquirer taken by a photographer named Harry Scull, Jr., whose testimony you will hear. He's a sports photographer in Buffalo where Mr. Simpson used to play football and go back and broadcast football games. He worked for the Associated Press in 1993 and on September 26, 1993 there was a game between the Buffalo Bills, the Miami Dolphins in Rich Stadium, New York Buffalo's stadium and Mr. Scull working for the AP took photographs of lots of players including some shots of Mr. Simpson broadcasting on the sidelines interviewing athletes. In the past Mr. Scull had taken many, many pictures of Mr. Simpson. This was not the first time. If the Associated Press didn't use the photographs as Mr. Scull will testify, he would try to then sell them. That's how he earns his living. In September of 1993, one of the pictures that he took is a picture that shows Mr. Simpson in the end zone wearing a jacket, tie, shirt, belt, pants, shoes that are clearly visible including the bottom of the shoe, the sole. We've had those shoes that picture shown to an expert by the way, an expert who used to head the photographic and questioned documents unit at the FBI for 25 years, a guy named Gerry Richards. He will testify that the photograph is authenticated looked at the negative and no question about the photograph. We've also had the shoes shown in that photograph that Mr. Simpson is wearing given to an expert Mr. Bodziak the shoe print expert and we've asked him to identify the shoe based on his training and knowledge and he can positively identify that the shoe Mr. Simpson is wearing in that photograph is a Bruno Magli Lorenzo style size 12 that has the Silga sole to it. That is the shoe that left the bloody shoe prints on Bundy on June 12. Once again we've asked Mr. Simpson to produce the shoes that he has been shown wearing in that photograph taken in September, 1993, just eight months or so before Nicole's death. He cannot produce them. We've asked him where are the shoes and where are the gloves that are seen in those photographs and his answers and we will present them to you here in court in testimony, "I gave them away." Asked him who he gave them to his answer, he can't identify who he gave them to. Your Honor, this is a good time. THE COURT: All right. Ladies and gentlemen we'll adjourn to 1:30 don't talk about the case among yourselves or with anyone else and don't form or express any opinion. (At 11:58 A.M. an adjournment was taken until 1:35 P.M. of the same day.) SANTA MONICA, CALIFORNIA; WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 23, 1996 1:35 DEPARTMENT NO. WEE HON. HIROSHI FUJISAKI, JUDGE (REGINA D. CHAVEZ, OFFICIAL REPORTER) (Jurors resume their respective seats.) THE COURT: Okay, you may resume. MR. PETROCELLI: Thank you. When we last left off before the noon hour, I was explaining to you the physical evidence that was found and how it tied in to Mr. Simpson. I'd like to resume. Kato Kaelin will testify that on the evening of June the 12th, when he saw Mr. Simpson and went to McDonald's, Mr. Simpson was wearing a dark sweat suit with a white zipper to it. Bear in mind also that the testimony of the hair and fiber expert, Douglas Deedrick, is that he found blue-black cotton fibers on various items. At his deposition, Mr. Simpson testified that he didn't recall owning any dark sweat suit. We've asked him to produce the dark sweat suit for us, and he has not been able to produce any dark sweat suit, even though you will hear the testimony of Kato Kaelin that he was wearing a dark sweat suit on the evening of June 12. Now, the physical evidence that I've described so far at Bundy will indicate that the killer had cuts or gouges on his left hand, evidenced by the blood drops that fell to the left of the bloody shoe print. Also, we know the left glove came off, because it was dropped there, and that's probably how the left hand got injured. Now, Mr. -- One other thing is, the Bronco had blood drops in the door, where you open up the door, on the driver's side interior panel, as I explained before. Where you would open up the door there was some blood drops in that little well there, also suggesting blood on the left fingers. So the evidence will show that the killer had blood coming from his left fingers or hand. When Mr. Simpson returned from Chicago on June 13, he had cuts on his left finger, two of his fingers. He went to the police that day and gave a statement, and one of those cuts was very noticeable and was photographed. And we have a picture of it, which we will show you. His friend who was at the police station with him and with him during that entire day will testify -- his name is Leroy Taft -- that he saw at least two cuts on Mr. Simpson's fingers, the middle finger and the fourth finger, on June 13. So we have Mr. Simpson coming back from Chicago with cuts on his left hand, left fingers. In his deposition in this case, we asked Mr. Simpson about his cuts on his left hand, and he was unable to explain exactly how he got them. His testimony in his deposition was that he cut himself in Chicago in his hotel room. After he claims to have heard the news of Nicole's death, he went into the bathroom and somehow cut himself on a glass, a drinking glass, but does not remember exactly how he did it, and cannot tell us how he cut himself in the bathroom in that Chicago hotel room. However, long before he gave his deposition in this case, on June 13, when he went to speak to the police at Parker Center, he told the police in a statement that he cut himself before going to Chicago. And we will present that testimony or those statements to you. So, we have his statement on June 13 admitting that he cut himself before he went to Chicago. Now we have his testimony in this case saying he cut him himself in the hotel room. Now, probably the most important evidence that we will present in this trial that identifies Mr. Simpson as the person who killed Ron and Nicole is the blood evidence, although there's lots of other evidence, as well, as you've heard me discuss. The blood evidence was tested mainly through DNA tests, highly reliable, scientific DNA tests. I'm going to talk to you a little bit about DNA. First, before I do so, I want to describe what the blood tests showed. Starting with Bundy, again, Nicole's condominium, the blood drops to the left of the shoe print were tested, and they matched Mr. Simpson's blood. The blood found on the back gate of Nicole's condominium was tested. They matched Mr. Simpson's blood. At Rockingham, the blood on the driveway was tested. That matched Mr. Simpson's blood. The blood in his foyer was tested; that matched his blood. The blood in the bathroom was tested; that matched his blood. There were three different kinds of blood stains on the glove found at Rockingham. One stain matched Mr. Simpson's blood. Another stain matched Nicole's blood, and another stain matched Ron Goldman's blood. The socks found in Mr. Simpson's bedroom were tested. Two different kinds of stains were found on the socks: One matched Mr. Simpson's blood; one matched Nicole's blood. The blood in the Bronco was tested. The blood on the door panel that I've been telling you about, where you open up the door, that matched Mr. Simpson's blood. There was blood found on the console that matched Mr. Simpson's blood, the center console between the passenger and driver's seat. There was blood found on the panel and on the console that also matched Nicole's blood, and there was blood found there that matched Ron's blood. So you have in these three places, where most of the evidence was found -- Bundy, Rockingham, in the Bronco -- only three types of blood: Ronald Goldman's, Nicole Brown Simpson's, and O.J. Simpson's. One other thing I'll mention about the Bronco: There was a carpet on the driver's side that had blood stains on it. The blood was tested and found to be Nicole's blood. The blood was located in an area on the carpet where one would step into the Bronco with your foot, if you're trying to enter into the car. And there were marks in Nicole's blood in the Bronco consistent with a shoe print. And FBI agent William Bodziak will say while there's not enough marks to make an absolute identification, that the marks that he does see on the carpet in Nicole's blood are consistent with the unique Bruno Magli sole that made the shoe print at the Bundy crime scene. Furthermore, Mr. Bodziak will explain that, because of the thickness of the carpet in the Bronco, if a person had blood on his shoes and he was walking on concrete, and the blood started to wear off and not leave anymore bloody shoe prints, once you step onto the rug, the carpet, because of the thickness of it, the blood will squeeze out of the sole and thereby leave an imprint. And that's what we will show you. Now, let me talk to you a little bit about the blood tests that I've just described which produced results matching the defendant's blood, as well as the victim's blood. Most of these tests were DNA tests. Just a little background about DNA that you will hear from our experts. DNA is the genetic blueprint of life. It is the nucleus of every cell in the human body; it's what makes us unique. No two persons except identical twins have the same DNA profile. Each of us has our own unique DNA. When we say DNA acts as the blueprint of life, this is what we mean: It is the DNA in our cells that causes us to have common characteristics of human beings, such as arms, legs, hearts and livers, et cetera. And it is also the DNA which causes us to have the characteristics that make us different from everyone else: Brown eyes, blue eyes, short, tall, right-handed, left-handed, et cetera. Each person gets half of his or her DNA from his mother and the other from his or her father. DNA can be found throughout a person's body. Blood, sperm, hair, saliva, bone, teeth, organ muscles, and other tissues all contain DNA that can be tested by scientists. And particularly important in forensic use that is using DNA to solve crimes is body fluids, such as saliva and blood, that can be tested for the presence of DNA. DNA obviously is not just used in forensic applications; it's used in a great variety of areas, including diagnosis of disease, development of new medicines, typing of tissues for organs and bone-marrow transplants, and the study and breeding of endangered species, increasing agricultural production, and others. For example, it was because of DNA research that the scientific community was able to determine that the disease known as sickle cell anemia was caused by a genetic defect. So it's a very powerful, powerful piece of science. Now, in terms of the forensic use of DNA, scientists are using it to solve crimes. DNA has been used to determine that people accused of crimes could not have been the killer, are excluded as the killer, because there is no DNA match. Sometimes people who have been wrongly convicted and sentenced to jail can be released years later because of DNA tests that are done. And, of course, it works the other way, as well. DNA can be an important indicator that a person is likely to be the person who committed the crime. Now, the DNA tests in this case, right from the beginning, there are going to -- they're going to be very important, because there was a lot of blood evidence. There was blood in the Bronco; there was blood at Rockingham; and there was blood at Bundy. Therefore, a decision was made to have DNA tests performed on the blood found, not just at the Los Angeles Police Department's lab, but also the State of California's Laboratory, Justice Department in Sacramento, and one of the largest privately owned forensic laboratories in the country, Cellmark Laboratories in Maryland. So all three labs were used to do the blood tests in this case, to make sure that there were no problems. Most of the time a piece of blood was tested, it was tested by at least two and sometimes three of the labs to see if the results would all be the same. There are two different kinds of DNA tests that you will be hearing about. One test is called the RFLP test. It's a very, very powerful DNA test that has the ability to establish a DNA profile to a very high degree of uniqueness. The other test is called the PCR test, and it is a test that's especially developed when you have a smaller quantity of blood. Blood comes in various sizes and stains. Sometimes there's more DNA in the blood that can be extracted, and sometimes there's less DNA. When there's a little bit of DNA, the PCR test is typically used. When there's more DNA, the RFLP test is used. The blood in this case that was tested was subjected to both forms of tests, the RFLP test and the PCR test. You will be hearing from our experts who did this and the other technicians what the results are, but let me summarize them for you. On the five Bundy blood drops that were along the walkway, all three labs tested those blood drops and came up with the same results, all three laboratories. The DNA profile of those Bundy blood drops matched Mr. Simpson's. On one of the blood drops, blood drop 52, which was outside past the back gate, they were able to do an RFLP test because there was enough DNA. And the results of that showed that only one out of 170 million people could have had that DNA profile. And that profile, of course, matched Mr. Simpson's. The blood found on the back gate was subject to DNA tests, both RFLP and PCR tests. Once again, it was determined that those blood drops had DNA profiles that matched Mr. Simpson's. One of those drops, number 117-- there's three drops on the back gate -- had enough DNA to allow scientists to do the RFLP test. That test established that the DNA profile in that blood drop matched that of Mr. Simpson, and was of such a high degree of a match, that only one out of every 57 billion people could have that same DNA profile. Of course, there's only about 6 billion people in that neighborhood on the face of the earth. Now, going to Rockingham, the trail of blood that was found leading up the driveway into Mr. Simpson's house, blood drops there were subjected to both the PCR and the RFLP blood drops, again, by the different laboratories. All the labs agreed results were the same: All the results showed DNA profile that matched Mr. Simpson's. The glove that was found at Rockingham was tested at the California Department of Justice Laboratory. The tests there on the glove found some of the blood contained a DNA profile that matched Mr. Simpson's; some of the blood contained a DNA profile that matched Ron Goldman's; and some contained the DNA profile that matched Nicole Brown Simpson's. The socks were tested. DNA profile matched Mr. Simpson; another stain matched Nicole. And finally, in the Bronco, again, DNA test results established that the blood on the driver's-side door matched Mr. Simpson's DNA; the other stains matched Mr. Simpson, Ron Goldman, and Nicole Brown Simpson. Now, the only witnesses who will be testifying in this case about doing DNA tests of the blood in this case are witnesses that we will be presenting. You will hear no testimony from any witness by the defense who did a DNA test. If they did, they're not going to testify about it. The only witnesses who will testify about the DNA tests are the witnesses that we will call. There will be no evidence contradicting any of the findings of these DNA tests. Let me now turn to a different subject altogether. In addition to the blood evidence, in addition to the physical evidence that points directly to Mr. Simpson, we are going to put on other evidence to show his responsibility for the murders on June 12. Among this evidence will be evidence describing Mr. Simpson's activities and his behavior after the murders. And we will prove by this evidence that he did not act and behave like an innocent man; that his behavior and his actions indicated a consciousness of guilt. MR. BAKER: Your Honor, I'm going to object to this based upon the Court's ruling. THE COURT: Overruled. MR. PETROCELLI: There are a couple of -- I'm not going to go through all the evidence here; time doesn't permit it. And you will be hearing it in the course of the trial. I'd like to highlight a few things that we will present to you. First of all, when Mr. Simpson packed that limousine, with Alan Park, driving to the airport, Kato Kaelin was present, together with Alan Park and Mr. Simpson. It was about 11:10 p.m. on June 12, and Mr. Simpson had to get to a flight. There will be testimony by Alan Park and separate testimony by Kato Kaelin that after packing some pieces of luggage, there was a bag, smaller dark bag, out near the Bentley that Mr. Simpson insisted on picking up himself, not allowing Kaelin, who offered to pick it up and put it in the car, insisted on picking it up himself and bringing it into the car. After Mr. Simpson returned, brought his luggage back, after all of the legal proceedings, after all of the attempts to obtain all the discovery in this case, that bag has never been seen again. There will be no witness who will bring that bag into this court. Mr. Simpson has produced some luggage that he claims he brought with him to Chicago that night, including one he claims was this bag. Kato Kaelin will testify that is not the bag he saw. Alan Park will testify that is not the bag he saw. There is a bag that has never been seen since June 12. Mr. Simpson went to Chicago on a red-eye. There will be evidence that despite the fact that almost everybody in first class slept, he did not sleep. He arrived in Chicago and was driven to a hotel a short distance away, the Chicago O'Hare. He checked in. He was driven to the hotel by a Hertz employee, a man named James Merrill, whose testimony you will hear. He's a guy who works for Hertz in Chicago, and when there are celebrities who come in -- Mr. Simpson was a Hertz paid celebrity -- this guy Merrill's job is to help out. And he picked Mr. Simpson up at the airport early in the morning and brought him to the hotel, packed up the luggage in Mr. Merrill's car -- Mr. Merrill lived 45 minutes, in the suburbs, away from the hotel, away from the airport. Mr. Simpson left his golf bag in Mr. Merrill's car. Mr. Merrill went off and went to bed. The next morning, Mr. Simpson received a phone call from Officer -- from Detective Ron Phillips, in which Detective Phillips informed Mr. Simpson of Nicole's death. Now, Mr. Simpson is in his hotel room in Chicago. We will present evidence showing that Mr. Simpson made a series of phone calls -- at least three that we know about, and we have phone records to prove them -- to this fellow, James Merrill, who lived 45 minutes away, in order to have him come back to the hotel and take Mr. Simpson to the airport, even though there was cab and ground transportation right downstairs, five minutes to the airport. Mr. Merrill will testify that Mr. Simpson was frantic about Merrill's picking him up. And Merrill jumped out of his house, got in his car, tried to get to the airport -- tried to get to the hotel. Mr. Simpson had an early flight. As it turned out, Merrill did not get to the hotel in time, and Mr. Simpson had to get other transportation to the airport, and flew to Los Angeles. Merrill left the golf clubs with American Airlines. And they put them on the next flight, and they were shipped back to L.A. Now, on June 14, which is a Tuesday -- Mr. Simpson arrived in Los Angeles on Monday, June 13, around eleven o'clock or so. On Tuesday, Mr. Simpson got up and drove to his office in Brentwood with his friend, Robert Kardashian, and they went up to Mr. Simpson office. And Mr. Simpson had his assistant secretary, Cathy Randa, call Mr. Merrill on the phone. And in that conversation, Mr. Simpson found out what happened to his golf clubs. And he then requested Mr. Kardashian to take him to the airport to get his golf clubs on Tuesday, June 14, at around -- I guess before noon or so. When questioned about this in his deposition, Mr. Simpson claimed he did not ask to be taken to the airport to get his golf clubs; he just happened to be riding around with Mr. Kardashian near the airport, and decided he'd stop in and get his golf clubs. We will present the testimony of not only Robert Kardashian, but Mr. Simpson's other friend, Mr. Taft, who will testify that Mr. Simpson specifically said, "Take me to the airport; I need to get my golf clubs." Mr. Simpson, on Monday, when he came back, June 13, got to Rockingham and then went down to the police station, where he gave a statement to detectives Tom Lange and Phil Vannatter. He spoke on a tape for about 30 minutes or so. And this was the first time, hours after Nicole's murder, that Mr. Simpson had been questioned about what he did the night before, what his whereabouts were, and so forth. Now, you'll hear that tape, or you'll have the statement read in. You will see that Mr. Simpson is unable to provide any clear explanation for what he was doing the night before. All he could say was, he was rushing and packing, and he was not able to describe with any detail what he was doing, particularly in that hour and 20 minutes. And again, as I mentioned before, when he was told that blood was found at Rockingham, he said he cut his finger -- he must have cut his finger before going to Chicago, even though now he says he cut his finger in Chicago in the hotel room. We will also present to you further deposition testimony of Mr. Simpson about that cut when we pressed him whether or not he saw any blood before he went to Chicago, as he told the police. And all he said in his deposition is that there was a tiny dab of blood that he saw on a pinky one time before he got in the limousine, which he dabbed, and threw the napkin away. So we will present to you direct inconsistencies in his deposition, in his police statement, about crucial events. After he came back from the police statement, later that night, Mr. Simpson had friends over to his house and family members. Kato Kaelin had gone to stay with a friend. He was asked to come back to Mr. Simpson's house. He got there, and he ended up in the kitchen alone with Mr. Simpson for a few moments. This is about eight or nine o'clock on the evening of June 13. Mr. Simpson then said to Mr. Kaelin, alone in the kitchen, words to this effect: You saw me go in the house after McDonald's, didn't you? And Kato Kaelin said no, I did not. Kato Kaelin's testimony, as I mentioned previously -- maybe I didn't, actually -- Kato Kaelin's testimony is that when he came back from McDonald's, he did not see Mr. Simpson walk back into the house. Mr. Kaelin walked into the house while Mr. Simpson stayed at the Bentley in the driveway, and never moved from it. We will present this testimony to, once again, show Mr. Simpson's attempt to build an alibi. And finally -- and I will let Mr. Brewer talk to you more about this -- on Friday, June 17 of that week, the police made a decision to arrest Mr. Simpson for the murders of Ron and Nicole. And Mr. Simpson was notified of this while he was staying at his friend's house, Robert Kardashian. We will present to you evidence, including the testimony of Mr. Simpson, that when he found out that he was going to be arrested, he and his friend, boyhood friend, Allen Cowlings, got into Mr. Cowling's car and left the Kardashian home. And they took off. And in that car was not only Mr. Simpson's personal effects, including his passport, but he also had, between Cowlings and him, over $8,000 in cash, changes of clothing, of underwear, windbreaker, and other items of clothing. There was a disguise: fake goatee, and there was a loaded gun. Now, Mr. Simpson will testify that he was suicidal because of the loss of Nicole. We will present to you evidence and prove that Mr. Simpson fled the police with Mr. Cowlings and contemplated suicide because he knew he was responsible for these murders. We will show that there is no other explanation. Mr. Brewer will discuss this with you in greater detail when he speaks. Now, people always ask when there's a killing, what's the motive. And that's a good, important question. Technically, the lawsuit does not require us to prove a motive. But when there is a motive, it's important to bring out, because it helps to explain why something happened, why a person would kill another person. In this case, O.J. Simpson had a motive to kill Nicole, which I will describe to you very briefly, and I will let Mr. Kelly recount to you in greater detail. He had a motive to kill Ron Goldman for the simple reason that Ron would have been and eyewitness, or was and eyewitness to the murder of his friend, Nicole. Nicole was killed for a different reason. We will present evidence showing that in this relationship between Nicole Brown Simpson and O.J. Simpson, there was severe conflict, tension, anger, that had been building up. There had been a recent estrangement, recent rejection of Mr. Simpson. There was a history of abuse, and there was a history of rage. And after the divorce in 1992, Mr. Simpson and Nicole tried again to make their relationship work. In a month before the murders, Nicole ended it for the final time. And we will show that Mr. Simpson could not accept this, was frustrated, was confused, was angry, and he retaliated. He also tried to get her back, buying her expensive gifts when she returned. And in the end, there was a build-up of a lot of anger and a build-up of a lot of hostility, to the point where we will present to you a letter that Mr. Simpson sent to Nicole just six days before she was killed, threatening -- putting her on notice about possible IRS violations, knowing the impact that it would have on Nicole, and knowing that it would cause her to have to sell her house because of possible tax problems, and she would have to move with her two children. And, in fact, one day before her murder, on Saturday, June 11, Nicole hired a realtor and had found a place in Malibu that she was going to move to. On the date of the murders, June 12 -- and again, the details will be laid out for you by Mr. Kelly -- I will just mention this: Mr. Simpson had flown all the way back from the east coast. He was tired he was exhausted. He wanted to go to his daughter's recital on Sunday with the family. He was not invited to sit with the family. By "the family," I mean his wife and her mother and father and sisters. He was not invited to a celebration dinner after the recital, and he was pretty much alone, maybe for the first time in his life. The defendant claims that he tried calling the house at 9:00 p.m. that evening, just to speak to Sydney, whom he had just seen at the recital. He said he did not say anything to Nicole. We don't know what happened in that call. But what we do know and what we can prove, is that an hour later, Mr. Simpson went over there in dark clothing, dark shoes, dark hat, dark gloves, with a knife, in a rage, and killed Nicole and Ron. Now, I've laid out for you the basic elements of our case. And Mr. Kelly and Mr. Brewer will fill in. We have the evidence in this case, ladies and gentlemen, that will show that Mr. Simpson had time and opportunity to kill Nicole, that there were severe problems in his relationship with Nicole at that time. In fact, the relationship was over. That all of the physical evidence of the case points only to him and no one else. All the evidence collectively points to him and nobody else. We submit to you that establishes to a certainty that Mr. Simpson killed Ron and killed Nicole. Now, what I'd like to do now is talk a little bit about what the defense will contend in response to -- or does contend in response to all this evidence. MR. BAKER: I'm going to object to that, Your Honor. THE COURT: Sustained. MR. PETROCELLI: I need to be heard. THE COURT: Okay. (The following proceedings were held at the bench, with the reporter.) MR. PETROCELLI: I'm now going to spend my remaining time dealing with their defense of contamination and conspiracy, which is at the core of their case. Mr. Baker has said to the jury over and over again, if you're to find Mr. Simpson innocent, basically, you would have to conclude that evidence was planted or was contaminated. This is their contention; it's in their interrogatories. And I'm going to go through the lack of evidence of any conspiracy and any contamination, any planting of evidence. This is, in effect, their affirmative defense. And I have the right to detail what evidence that we will show that demonstrates that these positions are not accurate. Now I'm not going to say what evidence they're going to put on; I'm simply going to say that this is their defense: Contamination and conspiracy or planting of evidence. That's right out of their interrogatory answers. Then I'm going to proceed to detail the evidence that we will present to defeat those claims. THE COURT: Well, what place does that have in the opening statement? MR. PETROCELLI: His defense is like an affirmative defense. THE COURT: Where is it? Is it in the pleading? MR. PETROCELLI: It's in the contention to interrogatories that the evidence was planted and the evidence was contaminated. THE COURT: You don't address it in opening statements; you can argue in it in closing. MR. PETROCELLI: Your Honor, we want to lay out the evidence that we're going to present, to show in this case that there was no planting and there was no contamination. I want to go through the way the crime scene -- THE COURT: If you want to do that, go ahead. You don't have to lay out Mr. Baker's theory. MR. PETROCELLI: I don't intend to lay out his theory at all, except to identify their defense is conspiracy and planting of evidence and contamination; that's what their defense is. THE COURT: I'm not going to permit to you identify their defense as their defense. And if you want to say this is our effort to show there was no contamination, that there was no conspiracy, fine, go ahead. But you can't speak for Mr. Baker. MR. PETROCELLI: I would like -- fine. I won't say anything about the defense. (The following proceedings were held in open court, in the presence of the jury.) MR. PETROCELLI: In the last part of my remarks, I would like to spend some time detailing the evidence: How the crime scenes were processed, how the evidence was collected, so that you will see, based on the evidence that we present, that there was no planting of evidence, and there was no contamination of evidence, and that all of the evidence that was collected was put there by the defendant, not by members of the LAPD. And none of the evidence was contaminated and none of the evidence mistakenly identified Mr. Simpson, in particular, blood evidence. First of all, on the subject of conspiracy, we will put on evidence showing that members of the Los Angeles Police Department, if anything, had a favorable impression of Mr. Simpson, and none of the persons involved in this case had any axe to grind whatsoever. There are a couple of insurance agents that point this out that we will present. One time in 1984, Mr. Simpson took a baseball bat to Nicole's windshield, and the police were called out, and the office that came out to the to the house was Mark Fuhrman. And Mr. Simpson himself will testify that Mark Fuhrman did not arrest him; Mark Fuhrman did not frisk him, did not search him, did not harass him. There was no mistreatment of him in connection with that incident in 1984. Three or four years later, in 1989, there was another incident in which the police came out to Rockingham on the morning of January 1, 1989, because Nicole had been beaten. And you will hear evidence about that incident. The police arrived -- Fuhrman, by the way, was not -- was not involved in that incident at all. There were other officers involved, including Officer Edwards. Police arrived and they told Mr. Simpson to get on his clothes, get dressed; they were going to take him in, after seeing Nicole and hearing from Nicole. Mr. Simpson got dressed, got in his car and drove out the other way, and fled the scene. Okay. We will prove by the officers who were there, that Mr. Simpson was never arrested for what he did for fleeing. Charges were never filed against him; nothing happened to him for leaving the scene. Just eight months before Nicole's death in October of 1993, once again, the police were called out to Nicole's house, this time at her own apartment in Brentwood on Gretna Green, where she lived right before she went to Bundy. There was another incident in which Mr. Simpson was upset, broke part of a door down, and the police were called out. We will present to you evidence of that incident, showing that the police did everything in their power to keep it quiet so there wouldn't be any problem for Mr. Simpson. There will be no evidence presented that anybody had any motive to do anything wrong to O.J. Simpson, let alone frame him for a double murder. Furthermore, we will show to you that most of the officers involved in investigating this case didn't even know one another. People like Phil Vannatter and Lange did not know Mark Fuhrman, for example, and they will so testify. We will prove to you that there were a large number of people involved in this investigation; it wasn't one or two persons who found all the evidence. Lots of people were involved. And I'm going to go through some of those people in a minute. There were lab technicians; there were criminalists; there were scientists; there were coroner's assistants; there were people who drive cars to and from; there were police officers who secure crime scenes, people who put up crime-scene tape; officers who take care of traffic; detectives, lead detectives, watch commanders, lots and lots of people involved in this investigation collecting the evidence and storing it and testing it and investigating the case. And there will be no evidence that any of them did anything wrong to harm Mr. Simpson, to prejudice Mr. Simpson, let alone to frame Mr. Simpson. The first officer who arrived at Bundy was Officer Robert Riske. He came with his partner, officer Michael Terrazas, at 12:13 a.m., wee hours of the morning, June 13. The bodies had been discovered by Mr. Boztepe, with Nicole's dog, right after midnight, a couple of hours after the police were summoned, and the first two officers who arrived are Officers Riske and Terrazas. And you will hear them testify they arrived at the scene; they saw what had happened; they saw two people had been killed. And they immediately got on the phone and called more officers to the scene. And officers started arriving in units, in teams. And lots of them came. And let me just pick a point: One o'clock in the morning, okay? By one o'clock in the morning, there were about a dozen officers, or at least six to a dozen officers, in that range, were coming or on their way there. And you'll hear some of the these names as the officers testify. The crime scene was immediately secured. An officer was sent to secure the back, so nobody would come in through the back and damage any evidence. Officers were put on the front; officers were put around the corner; crime-scene tape was put on this; it's what officers do when they arrive at a crime scene. Now, it's not the job of the police officers to start doing the detective work, the investigators are. What they do is, they call and get detectives assigned to the case. At this time, it was a West L.A. case because it occurred in West L.A. We will hear evidence that the West L.A. detective was summoned, and his name was Ronald Phillips. He was asked to send a team of detectives out to Bundy. And Detective Phillips called two people up: Detective Roberts and Detective Fuhrman. It was about one o'clock a.m. when he called them to say, "You better get here to the police station; we have to go out to a crime scene." 1:00 a.m. Mark Fuhrman is in bed 1:00 a.m. Detective Roberts is in bed 1:00 a.m. Detective Tom Lange, who later got involved, he's in bed. Detective Phil Vannatter, he's in bed. Dennis Fung, the criminalist who got involved later on, he's in bed. His assistant, Andrea Mazzola, he's in bed -- she's in bed. Excuse me. The lab technician who did a lot of lab work, Collin Yamauchi, he's in bed. His boss, Greg Matheson, he's in bed. The head of the lab, Michele Kestler, she's in bed. So you get the picture. Now, while all these people are in bed, the first officers on the scene see the all the basic evidence that I've just described to you. They see the two bodies; they see fresh blood drops on the walkway. They see the blood on the back gate. We will prove to you from these officers' observations and their notes, that that blood was not planted on the back gate and could not have been planted, because the officers saw it at 12:30 in the morning. Riske saw it; Terrazas saw it. They showed it to other officers who came. And there's even a photograph that picks up at least one stain of the three. So with this evidence, not only the officers' observations, not only their notes but a photograph. We will demonstrate that there is no conceivable way that any blood on the back gate was planted. The first officers on the scene saw it. In addition, these officers saw the other evidence that had been left behind. They saw the knit cap lying on the ground, and they saw a single leather glove. When the other teams of officers came and finally the detectives arrived, everybody was pointing out the basic evidence so they wouldn't touch it or interfere with it, just look at it. Now, Detective Phillips, who called Fuhrman out of bed and called Roberts out of bed, Detective Phillips got over to Bundy at around ten after 2:00 with Mark Fuhrman, and they were going to be the initial detectives who would handle the case. After they surveyed the crime scene, detective Fuhrman sat down to make out his report, and then was told -- and you will hear this from the testimony of Detective Phillips -- that a decision had been made, because it was probably going to be a big case, high-profile case and so forth, that it was going to be transferred downtown, from West L.A. to downtown, to the robbery/homicide division, and that new detectives would be coming and taking over. And Phillips finds that out around, I don't know, 20 to 3:00, quarter to 3:00 in the morning. He then waited around with Fuhrman, with Roberts, with 14, 15 other people who are there by that time, for the detectives to come over, just making sure the crime scene is secure. Now, let's first focus on the time period before Detective Fuhrman got there at ten after 2:00. Everybody who looked at the evidence at the crime scene saw only one glove. And they saw the knit hat; they saw the blood drops and the victims' bodies, of course, Nobody who was there before Detective Fuhrman arrived or Detective Phillips, ever saw a second glove. Nobody ever saw a second glove there. After Detective Phillips arrived with Fuhrman, other detectives and people who came were shown the crime scene. And those people didn't see a second glove. In other words, the point I'm making here is, there is no evidence that there was ever a second glove at Bundy. And we will present evidence to you that there was only a single glove at Bundy; that everybody who was there, saw only one glove. And I don't mean right at the walkway or right in the dirt area where Ron's body was found; I mean anywhere around the area, including in the back and in the front, wherever the officers went to secure th