

Forensic psychologist J. Buzz Von Ornsteiner on the trial of the New Jersey nurse accused of dismembering her husband
March 23, 2007
Court TV Host: Dr. Buzz is here! He was just on "Open Court" discussing the McGuire case, and we're pleased to have him joining us here online now...Welcome, Dr. Buzz!
J. Buzz Von Ornsteiner: Hello everybody! Dr. J. Buzz Von Ornsteiner is here! So, hey just call me Dr. Buzz.
Question from kiara: Dr. Buzz, how do you interpret Melanie's court room demeanor?
J. Buzz Von Ornsteiner: Hey, good question! Well, the jury should question why did this otherwise 'respectable women' commit this horrendous murder, if in fact she did? How does she look? I think in many ways, sad and clearly under great stress. Our public view toward 'respectable' women who seek murder as their only solution has always been historically one of fascination and repulsion, sympathy, criticism, compassion, and puzzlement coupled with an ultimately harsh judgment. Many different views!
Question from Mark: Dr Buzz, would a nurse know how to dismember a person like a doctor would?
J. Buzz Von Ornsteiner: That's another great question! We would assume she has some experience. Her computer indicates that she was doing research on the web on 'murder'. You raise another question, did she do this act alone? Of course psychologically, the bloodiness of the act is startling (since they have found no signs of the blood in her apartment). Along with the gruesome nature of the crime is the unexpected character of the accused, not a hatchet-wielding mobster but a 'respectable woman'!
Question from kiara: Dr. Buzz, doesn't it make sense that only a detached, clinical person could carry out such a brutal killing and dismemberment?
J. Buzz Von Ornsteiner: I hear what you are saying! In addition people appear to have LOVED her and we all can present a public, socially appropriate personality within our employment. But even the most compassionate individuals can be capable of great rage when pushed to their emotional limit. If you find yourself in a difficult union with a lack of choices and feeling emotionally powerless, it can create the ground work for destructive behaviors, even murder!
Question from CT: Dr Buzz, do you think the wanna-be boy friend looks like he could have done it?
J. Buzz Von Ornsteiner: First, people do 'crazy' things for love. However, she had made it clear that she was not in love with him. Why she continued to have a friendship with this man may say more about her.
Question from Inspector: Dr.Buzz, what about the stepfather of McGuire? I think he could have played a part in assisting her.
J. Buzz Von Ornsteiner: That's a very interesting point. We may find out a great deal more on their relationship as the trial moves forward. We must also remember she was having sexual relations with her boss, who normally would have had control over his employees, and she was having sex with him! So she at the very least had some kind of sexual control over him, that can really flip your perception of one's employment around. She clearly did not make good choices in whom she had a male friends, lovers or whom she married!
Question from sume: Dr. Buzz - has there been any mention about the children & their well-being?
J. Buzz Von Ornsteiner: That's again a really good important question! Where are the children in all of this? Granted, all relationships have problems. Periods of conflict, frustration or anger are an inevitable part of every marriage or long-term relationship simply because they are in the fabric of all human relationships. However, most couples do attempt to work out reasonable solutions for the sake of the children.
Question from Maryb: Dr. Buzz, I had heard there was mention that she was afraid of losing custody of her children in a divorce. Has there been mention of something about her that would cause her to fear losing her children if she had pursued a divorce action with her husband?
J. Buzz Von Ornsteiner: We know she was asking a friend about the cost of a divorce and of course after her husband went missing she began the process of getting a divorce. However, that stated, she was NOT the loving, supportive, long-suffering wife of five years.
Question from cvoc13: Mis info/ re; her kids, Mary.
J. Buzz Von Ornsteiner: Psychologically, it may all come down to her limited coping skills and then her rage-driven reaction and thus her attempting to gain back control and power in her life by destroying the object she viewed as her perceived suppressor - her husband.
Question from cvoc13: What kind of man takes favors from a 38-week pregnant woman? Yuck
J. Buzz Von Ornsteiner: Hey, I hear you!! First off, clearly HER perceived reputation as a medical professional was skewed! You don't engage in oral sex with your boss in one of the examination rooms. You just don't. You might in the back seat of a car at a drive-in movie theater as a teenager, but not at your place of employment as an adult. That kind of behavior is more indicative of individuals who enjoy engaging in impulsive risk-taking behavior. There appears to be a weakness for impulsive behaviors based on this individual's selfish needs. She was, after all, pregnant and a married woman.
Question from Budroe: Wasn't there ample evidence that she "unprofessionally" wrote some prescriptions which fell in line with deception in order to cover up her intentions or agenda?
J. Buzz Von Ornsteiner: Good question. There appears to be ample evidence that she wrote some prescriptions. With that, I also feel as a psychologist, it is important to remember, individuals can be very nice and wonderful when they feel they have control over other individuals within their environment. After all, the position of a nurse can be a very powerful one.
Question from Tamz: Why would she buy a gun for him when he was abusive to her?
J. Buzz Von Ornsteiner: Hey, I agree! It just doesn't make any logical sense. Her husband, so she states, was gambling and seeing other women, hey, well she did not have control over her husband. She also states he was verbally and physically abusive. Once again she clearly did not make good choices in the men she became involved with.
Question from kiara: Dr. Buzz, what kind of early family life would you guess that Melanie had based upon her adult behavior? Was she an only child or the youngest?
Court TV Host: Kiara - that's ALLEGED adult behavior!
J. Buzz Von Ornsteiner: As a psychologist, by reexamining this individual's emotional stability, her social environment and her personality traits, we can then understand why this killing may have occurred. At this point we just don't know very much about this individual's emotional background before her marriage.
Question from kiara: HOST....I am referring to documented adult behavior given by trial witnesses.
Court TV Host: Okay, just want to keep things clear!
J. Buzz Von Ornsteiner: As a forensic psychologist working within a criminal population, I can state with clinical experience that many woman who commit murders are just as cruel and abusive with no sense of remorse as the male criminal population that fill our prisons. However, to be frank, it can be assumed that many theories, insights and personal assessments on murderesses are framed by what is 'ladylike behavior' and what is not within our society. That stated, she had motive - just like the men! The motives for this woman show a range as diverse as that of any male: monetary gain, ridding herself of a burden, pure revenge, pressure from a love interest, acting out from a history of perceived or actual abuse, or base emotional need for power and control.
Question from Maryb: Dr.Buzz, Don't you find it interesting, as a psychologist, that the men she chose she seemed to have control over; Finn was enamored, and the doctor was obviously in love with her. She appears to me to like power.
J. Buzz Von Ornsteiner: YES! I agree with your statement as a psychologist! She appears to be a woman who wanted and needed a great deal of power and control in her relationships. Now with that stated, feeling powerless over her husband and the state of her marriage could have led to internal depression, frustration, anger, and over time left her skewed way of thinking, with no other logical solution than to dwell on external thoughts of blame, revenge and then murder - directed toward her husband.
Question from rose: What about Dr. Miller's behavior, what does that tell you about him?
J. Buzz Von Ornsteiner: He stated he was 'in love' but love can only go so far when the individual becomes ruled by their fears. He was fearful that he would take the blame for this murder. And we know, psychologically, that fear can rule an individual's emotional stability.
Question from LisaOHIO: Dr Buzz do you think that there is still a connection between McGuire and Miller? It seems to me that McGuire showed more emotion when he was on the stand yesterday.
J. Buzz Von Ornsteiner: Well, clearly they both were acting out sexually based on their love. However, his behavior indicates a lack of employment ethics, or a possible escape from his own problematic marriage, or just impulsive actions that are consistent with her personality. We really don't know a lot about how equal this relationship was. All we know is they both state, they were "in love".
Question from Maryb: Dr. Buzz, welcome, do you believe that if the defense cannot produce something concrete such as another suspect, that the jury may find her guilty based on what they know so far?
J. Buzz Von Ornsteiner: There appears to be an overwhelming amount of evidence that points the finger at her guilt. Psychologically, when the jury goes through everything it may all come down to her limited coping skills and then her rage-driven reaction to plan and then murder her husband. She was LOVED by a lot of individuals. However, the position of a nurse can be a very powerful one. Patients are often very vulnerable and welcome positive attention, really any attention at all. We need to remember she appears to have a great need to be in control. Even her boss, her friend, she controlled in some way, at least emotionally. In addition even with her impaired relationships, it does not really explain how or why she came to commit this heinous murder, if in fact she really did.
Court TV Host: Thanks, Dr. Buzz... Thank you everyone! Dr. J. Buzz Von Ornsteiner aka Dr. Buzz

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