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Court TV Host: We're going to be joined by Marc Klaas to talk about protecting your kids. Marc Klaas's daughter, Polly, was abducted and killed, and he's been on a crusade to help protect other kids. Many of you might have seen his "Taking A Stand" commentary on Court TV.
Court TV Host: Mr. Klaas is here...Welcome.
Marc Klaas: Thank you very much
for giving me an opportunity to speak to your audience today,
and hopefully we can leave here with more knowledge
than we came into it with.
big_red060: Can I hear Marc Klaas's storey
Marc Klaas: Let me say that I will certainly offer my story.
There are really no taboo issues or subjects as far as this
conversation goes.
On the evening of October 1, 1993,
my 12 year old daughter Polly was kidnapped from a slumber party
at about 10:30 in the evening.
For the next 65 days
we frantically searched for Polly and
worked for her safe return
as an interest and momentum grew
regarding her situation on a national level.
We were informed that Polly had been stolen,
raped and murdered by a repeat violent offender
on the evening that she was kidnapped.
Thus began my journey
to give meaning to her death
and create a legacy in her name
that would prevent future tragedies for other innocent
children.
flong1127: God, how did you cope with this whole thing? It must be so overwhelming. What would you tell me, a mom of twins? What's the most important thing to watch for?
Marc Klaas: Well, lets talk about the coping first.
I'm in Connecticut,
and last night I had dinner with Judith Maisel.
When Judith as a 13 year old girl in Lithuania,
Nazi storm troopers entered her village,
murdered 146 of her relatives
and sent her to a concentration camp.
Like Mrs. Maisel, I get up in the morning, and try to look forward, to do something good for myself
and to try to build on my child's legacy.
Now, for the mother of the twins,
the best insurance we have
against our children becoming involved in the criminal justice
system as either perpetrators or victims
is a constant message of love.
That is communicated through nurturing
and character-building that will give them the self-esteem they need
to succeed in life and make the right choices.
losmun: If a man can enter a home with other children present, without drawing too much attention to himself, what can we do to protect ourselves from these types of predators?
Marc Klaas: There are many ways to answer that question.
Number one, we should be aware of the individuals in our neighborhoods.
We should know our neighborhoods.
We should know the people in our neighborhoods.
We should work with each to organize neighborhood watch programs
that make us aware of suspicious individuals and activities
so that we may report them to law enforcement and
so that they can use this information to
proactively protect us.
Number two, we should ensure that those individuals who we elect to represent us
in federal and state legislatures make public safety a top priority.
They should not get caught in the trap
that is a turnstile system of justice that regurgitates
the same offenders back into society
time and time again.
erica_19762: Hello, I'd like to start out with my prayers for you and all you have overcome to still be here and functioning after such a tragedy. We live in a sick world, how can someone hurt a child? I just can't imagine what I would do if something happened to my kids. They live in fear of strangers and bad people, and that's no way to have to raise a child.
Marc Klaas: Let's start with the idea of strangers. We have to understand
that most children who are victimized, are victimized
by somebody that they know.
And that children want the information
that they can use to protect themselves
from harm.
erica_19762: How can I keep my babies safe? I don't even want to send them to school with all the shootings and all that. I do everything I know humanly possible to keep them safe. I just hope there isn't one thing I'm missing in there.
Marc Klaas: I would like to talk about five non-threatening tips.
Knowledge is power on this and any other issue.
The better knowledge we have,
the better we can protect ourselves.
Five safety tips that children can use as guideposts
in their early lives:
Number 1. Always check with your parents first.
Number 2. Always be outside with at least 1 other person.
Because we all know there is strength in numbers.
Number 3. Trust your feelings.
Number 4. If something feels bad, it probably is.
And, you should put physical distance between you and whatever that may be.
Finally, there are certain kinds of strangers that can help a child
out of a dangerous situation.
Women. Moms with kids.
Sometimes other kids.
Police officers in uniforms.
And in a retail situation, store clerks or security guards.
luckyone997: My 3 1/2 year old thinks a stranger is someone dressed in black. How do you get across to kids that strangers can look like a grandma?
Marc Klaas: Again. The issue is not about strangers.
The issue is about who is going to hurt the child
and what kinds of messages are we sending
to our children.
Not allowing our children to talk to strangers
shuts down their world
and limits their ability
to expand their horizons.
We tell our children not to talk to strangers
and then talk to somebody in front of us in the grocery line
that we've never met before.
So, the issue is really about developing the right set of tools to avoid compromising situations, whoever or whatever may be compromising that situation.
I hope that answers that.
recovering_rose: Mr. Klaas, this is a comment not a question. I want you to know I have seen you on many talk shows and I have great respect for you, and although I do not know you, or what you have truly endured, know that I am sorry for your loss.
Marc Klaas: That's very kind.
I'd like to thank that person and point out
that I'm simply a father,
and I'm trying to prevent other children from enduring the tragedy that my child endured.
etnie97801: What happened to the perpetrator that murdered Polly?
Marc Klaas: Polly's killer currently resides
on California's death row.
And although it has been 5 years since his conviction,
he is yet to be assigned an appeals attorney.
luckyone997: Excellent points! Thank you and my heart goes out to you!
Marc Klaas: Thank you.
d_arner2000: Marc, sorry about your daughter. My prayers are with you. On the Aisenberg case I think you may be mistaken and being a little harsh on them, my friend..
Marc Klaas: I may be incorrect on my assumptions regarding the Aisenberg case,
but they behave much more
like people interested in protecting
their own interests
than parents concerned about the
recovery of their missing child.
bobbylovesblue: As a student in high school, I feel a breach to my safety due to events taken place in recent years -- my school doesn't do much to stop other kids from bringing guns. We have metal detectors, we seldom use them. What can *I* do to protect myself and my friends, if my school seems to not care at all?
Marc Klaas: Wow. That's a fabulous question.
I understand the issues of peer pressure,
and I understand that no one wants
to be looked upon or considered a snitch.
But if you are aware
that someone in your school
is either talking about or planning violence
against others in the school
to inform the relevant authorities
about that action
is heroic.
And to fail to do so
would make you complicit in the act of violence.
youhadme_athello73: I live in Texas, in a small town where I thought everybody should know one another, THEY DON'T. We live by the Texas motor speedway where there are a lot of strange people around here -- how then can I teach a child to watch out for without asking him to look over his shoulder?
youhadme_athello73: And furthermore we live in a neighborhood where most folks don't speak or look the other direction. Our family tried the neighborhood watch thing, and nobody showed up to the meeting.
Marc Klaas: Well, I think again it then comes back
to the family unit and being responsible for each other
and giving your child the tools
make good choices.
And knowing your neighborhood
and showing your children
safe places to play
and areas to avoid
like alleys
and dark stairwells.
Whether or not your neighbors
are responsive,
the more you know about your neighborhood
will help determine
how safe your family will be.
lb_037t: Do you feel crime stems from the entertainment industry?
Marc Klaas: Popular culture is certainly one of the things
that influences crime in America
but so are many other factors.
Demographics, for example.
The perpetrators of crime
tend to be young men between the ages of 18
and 25 years old.
Drug use is another important factor.
Just look at how crime rates spiked
during the crack epidemic
of the early nineties.
Another determining factor
is our response as a society to criminal activity
We are the society that made a hero
out of Hannibal Lecter.
We are fed a constant diet of violence
in both entertainment and news.
We are the society
that has taught our children
that violence is a viable answer
and response to issues.
Court TV Host: As for talking to your kids, the five-points you mentioned earlier...here's a follow-up.
erica_19762: How young is too young to tell kids about such terrible things and people?
Marc Klaas: If one is going to talk about the five points,
it doesn't have to be in terms of fear.
Fear-inducing strategies
will only beget more fear.
We have to look at knowledge in terms of empowering
our children to make
correct choices.
So that violence does not become
an issue in their lives.
krazzyj3934: Recently, a little girl was murdered in my city (Elizabeth Byrd). She was walking to school alone in the morning and she never got to school. Now, I am a mother and this worries me that my child can be walking two blocks to school.
fun2_me: How do I know if my boy is okay coming home from scool
Marc Klaas: This should be simple,
if we're talking about a journey of 2 blocks.
That child should be accompanied, if at all possible,
by a parent on that journey.
Otherwise, that journey should be made
with a group of other
children.
Should a child make that journey by themselves?
No.
KRT_bird: I'm glad to get a chance to tell you how sorry I feel about Polly. She was a beautiful child. On a similar subject: do you think there was an intruder inside the Ramsey house the night their daughter was killed?
Marc Klaas: I don't believe there was an intruder
inside the Ramsey house that evening
I believe the evidence
as we know it
is pretty clear-cut.
The only logical explanation
for that ransom note is if it came from within
the household itself.
erica_19762: I told my son if anyone was to ever grab him in a store to fight! Don't give up, scream kick, bite, yell "This is not my daddy!" -- anything to escape, if it means driving the guy off the road in his car. What do you think?
Marc Klaas: I agree.
And to embellish that,
children should avoid
ever having to get
in that car
with every tool they have in their possession.
Even if it means pulling a button
off of their shirt or blouse
and dropping it in the ignition
where the key would go.
erica_19762: What laws do you think would help?
Marc Klaas: Longer sentences for individuals
who commit harm against children.
Right now the average sentence
for a child molester in America
is only 2.9 years per conviction.
Then another law would be a
2 strike law for felony child-abusers.
Wherein a second conviction
would result in a life-sentence.
This addresses the issues of false accusation
and repeated patterns of behavior.
Thirdly, standardization
and greater access to
Megan's Law information.
But to think that we can cure crime
by simply being harsher on offenders
or building more prisons
is like saying we can cure AIDS
by building more cemeteries.
The real solution to a crime-free society
is targeting prevention programs
towards at-risk youth
so that today's children
don't become tomorrow's criminals.
Court TV Host: We're going to have to wrap things up....any closing thoughts?
Marc Klaas: I appreciate every one giving me
a few moments of their time
to talk about this very important issue.
By working together we can ensure
that the world our children
inherit from us
is safer and more secure
than the world we inherited
from our parents.
Thank you very much.
Court TV Host: If you have any other questions, or want more information, you can take a look at the Klaas Foundation website at www.klasskids.org
Marc Klaas: We do have an email address on that site -- you can contact us though that.
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