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Court TV Host: Court TV's Catherine Quayle and Andy Brooks are on the road sampling reaction to the execution of Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, scheduled for tomorrow morning at 8am Eastern time. They've been traveling across part of the country
speaking to people along the way. They started at McVeigh's birthplace in Buffalo New York and they made their way across upstate New York,
upper Pennsylvania, Ohio, and on into Indiana, which is where they are now, just entering Terre Haute. You can read about their journey at Journey to Terre Haute: From the Cradle to the Grave
Court TV Host: Catherine and Andy are here!
Catherine Quayle and Andy Brooks: Hi, Everyone!
Catherine Quayle: We're just now driving into Terre Haute.
Andy Brooks: Hello from the road.
It could be any town--McDonalds, John Deere stores...
Catherine Quayle: As we got off the highway, there was a huge sign directing pro-demonstrators one way and
anti-demonstrators another.
niceguy82341: What do most people think about the execution?
Catherine Quayle: I can't say that most people think one thing in particular,
but many feel that McVeigh is getting what he deserves.
Others, mostly those who oppose the death penalty, feel the execution is wrong.
Andy Brooks: People have made up their minds, we're finding. We got the impression that they have discussed
the execution with other people.
ctv_warhorse46: Tell us about some of the more memorable people you met.
Catherine Quayle: At the first campground we stayed at, we met a couple from Chicago, who were traveling with their three children. And they were some serious campers,
drinking beer at nine in the morning. Initially they said they had no opinion that we would want to hear,
and then once we got them on camera
they talked about McVeigh
as if they never thought of anything else.
Andy Brooks: We were sending a story back in a pizza joint/convenience store,
and we met a fellow named Anthony when we came in because he saw our Court TV hat,
and we asked him what he thought about the McVeigh execution, he said he didn't want to answer, but he led us to the woman who worked in the pizza shop, who did want to talk to us,
but mostly about the out-of-work steel workers in Mansfield, Ohio.
We saw a range of prosperity. I got the impression that, for some people, there were larger issues
looming in their minds, even though they were aware of the impending execution date.
coachslagle: What was the purpose of your birth-to-death study of McVeigh?
Andy Brooks: This story has affected every American in some way, some much more than others --
some personally, some in a more political sense.
We wanted to go out into the towns and cities and hear what citizens
who may not have been affected personally by the bombing felt.
therose_4: Do any of the people you talked to have a fear that this could happen again in the U.S.?
Catherine Quayle: We didn't specifically talk about that. But I did ask people if they felt there were a lot of other McVeighs out there,
and everyone immediately said, "Absolutely, yes."
But, oddly enough, when I ask if that concerns them, they say "No."
Court TV Host: We've heard that one of you had dreams about this story?
Andy Brooks: I had a dream last night that involved McVeigh and our editor. The dream was basically about covering the story and the stress related to doing that,
and that the story was centered around someone that we have not ever met in person. In the dream I felt somehow responsible for the execution,
but it was a dream and it was abstract.
He was a character in my dream, and I think I needed to know him
elvis_biskit: How many anti-death penalty people do you think are going to be there because of all the media coverage?
Andy Brooks: We heard on the local radio that there would be traffic jams, but that hasn't been the case.
In fact, we heard that the number of anti-death penalty demonstrators was quite low.
mindymarie1979: Is there anyone you have talked to who thinks Timothy shouldn't die? That he deserves to live?
Catherine Quayle: I think most everyone thinks he deserves to die.
But that doesn't necessarily mean they think he should die.
Andy Brooks: I met someone who said this to me: "The people who want to execute McVeigh must think that we live in a country that is sophisticated enough to kill a man for public satisfaction" and that person didn't believe that we should execute McVeigh, or anyone.
therose_4: Catherine, about your dispatch re: people thinking McVeigh's act represents a complete breakdown of society, I for one, do not agree. McVeigh, like any criminal makes a conscious choice to do the deed, and all of them should be held responsible, only the truly insane have some kind of alibia, and they are caught quickly due to their mental state. Why blame ALL of society for a criminal acts committed by a very small percentage of individuals?
Catherine Quayle: I've been surprised that people lump McVeigh in with other criminals like
school shooters and other kinds of murders because to me, he seems like a different kind of animal.
In some ways,
however, many of the people I've spoken to immediately bring up all these other types of crime, and then launch into
a complaint about the ills of our society.
They seem to think that they're all symptoms of the same problem.
Andy Brooks: The fact of the matter is that statistics indicate that crime rates are going down,
that fewer young people are committing violent crimes.
I think people may always feel that times were better
sometime ago, no matter what era they're living in.
evithalani: What's the hardest thing about making this journey?
Andy Brooks: The hardest part of this journey is getting people to talk about something that is painful for every American at some level.
Catherine Quayle: I think the hardest thing is pulling people out of their daily activities when they're least
suspecting it.
That can be unsettling for all of us involved,
and talking to them about tragedy.
gadgetgirlnyc: What are peoples' reactions when you tell them what you are doing? Do they think it is exploitative?
Catherine Quayle: If they think that, they haven't told us so. For the most part, we find people very interested,
and when we say good bye to them, they always wish us well.
Andy Brooks: I would agree with what Catherine said. It's funny that people are initially shy, but talking to us about this seems almost therapeutic or cathartic.
ctv_warhorse46: What is the "tone" of Terre Haute now?
Andy Brooks: Having just arrived, we haven't been to the penitentiary yet, but we saw a glimpse of it.
The town seems to be conducting its day-to-day Sunday business.
There were people leaving the fairgrounds. A lot of people went to the fair today.
shootingupinvain: I was wondering what parents are saying about the execution -- I mean, that it's wrong for people to kill others yet its OK for the government to kill us.
Andy Brooks: The issue of disciplining McVeigh in one conversation we had did evolve into a discussion of parenting
and severity of discipline.
Catherine Quayle: I think the one thing I've noticed from the parents we've spoken to
is that they
are very afraid for their own children
and the people out there who might harm them
and, in the case Andy spoke of, the parents felt we need stricter laws for violent criminals
to protect their children.
therose_4: Did any of the people you met have any sympathy for McVeigh's family? He dies, but they have to live with the fact their son did this horrible deed the rest of their lives, how tragic for them, too.
Catherine Quayle: Yes, we did hear a lot of sympathy for his family -- in particular, his Dad,
especially when we visited his home town of Pendleton, NY
because they know him, and see the effect his son's crime has had on his life.
People talked mostly about Bill McVeigh
Andy Brooks: Yes, locals in Pendleton at a bar that we went to said that they feel sorry for Bill McVeigh,
because he has been hounded by the media
and cannot leave his house without worrying that he'll encounter television cameras.
Court TV Host: Do you have any closing thoughts?
Andy Brooks: I think that if the execution goes as planned on Monday morning, there will be a moment of eerie suspense,
because from the outside, nothing will seem different.
But, for many people, something will be changed forever.
Court TV Host: Thank you so much for joining us today.
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